What's the hurry?

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Lee48

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So many recent threads have to do with deployment methods and which method is the fastest. I'm just wondering why so many people are in a hurry to open their knives.

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Interesting question, and it leads to what it slowest opening knife?

Some sort of clockwork Rube Goldberg device I'd guess; probably a custom.
 
I don't think I have ever seen any serious discussion on the slight variations in total opening duration; I believe it is just an observation that is worth noting when discussing a folding knife that is designed for one-handed opening.

If a knife opens "fast", it is an indication of the ease and potentially the quality of operation rather than a specific criterion that need be quantified in actual measure of duration in order to make a judgment.

Would it be better if people did not mention their perception of the quickness or speed of opening? If speed of opening is not a criterion that matters to an individual, it is easily dismissed while one gathers the information that is pertinent to themselves.

Many people for many years have been satisfied to "set down the bag" to pull their traditional knife out of their pocket and open it with two hands. For those kinds of knives the folks like to talk about "walk and talk" and the pull effort. Different mindset, different indications.

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mqqn
 
craytab said:
What does "so many" mean. Can you link them?
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Are you saying you have not seen many posts on this forum that mention "fast opening"?

Why zero in on one absolute and then challenge the OP to gather links? From here it looks like passive-aggressive behavior although it may not have been your intent.

Do you have an opinion on the topic of the original post?

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mqqn
 
Fast opening knives are more fun to play with. Yea I know, "knives are tools, not toys" blah blah blah, yada yada yada, but it's the truth.
 
mqqn said:
Are you saying you have not seen many posts on this forum that mention "fast opening"?

Why zero in on one absolute and then challenge the OP to gather links? From here it looks like passive-aggressive behavior although it may not have been your intent.

Do you have an opinion on the topic of the original post?

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mqqn
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I can only really remember one recent thread on the topic and I don't even remember how recent that was or what recent even means. If there is a bunch of recent gkd threads on the subject I think I missed it. If I did miss it I would like to know, thus the request for links. Why make a thread about recent threads if there aren't "so many" of these recent threads? Show them to us to validate your claim op.

Personally, I enjoy a fast opening knife. It's fun. Necessary but fun.
 
craytab said:
I can only really remember one recent thread on the topic and I don't even remember how recent that was or what recent even means. If there is a bunch of recent gkd threads on the subject I think I missed it. If I did miss it I would like to know, thus the request for links. Why make a thread about recent threads if there aren't "so many" of these recent threads? Show them to us to validate your claim op.

Personally, I enjoy a fast opening knife. It's fun. Necessary but fun.
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I don't think the point was about specific threads with this specific topic, but rather a general consensus that fast deployment is good. Read or view just about any knife review on the internet: forums, You Tube, or other, and it will be mentioned, as well as mentioned in a lot of general conversations about different knives.

If you insist that it is not talked about on a frequent basis, then you either are not paying attention, or are, like Mqqn said, exhibiting passive aggressive behavior.
 
I actually have the same question as the OP. I mean, how big the speed difference can be between the fastest and the slowest one-hand openning folders? does it really matter that much?
 
Okay. "So many" and "recent" must need to be defined for some.

Maybe the better terminology would be "many recent posts in several recent threads" would be a better description. Is that better?

Links? Just go to page one of the General Knife Discussion today and you'll probably find at least one thread with someone asking what is the fastest deployment method or what's your favorite opening method with several people saying their favorite is based on speed of deployment. You will also find similar posts in threads concerning specific knife brands. Really...such posts are not hard to find in the various forums.
 
I'm not into it. I prefer one handed opening, just for convenience, but I don't flip or flick open knives, I'm not even sure if I know the proper method, nor need to. My EDC pivot is probably tighter than most on here would prefer, and I open it smoothly, with preference on strength of lockup over speed.

I guess a lot of people think their knives will be used for self defense purposes, and I have a few SD type knives, but if it comes to that, my right hand is going for something chambered in 9mm. My knife mostly cuts boxes.
 
Leftytwogunz said:
I'm not into it. I prefer one handed opening, just for convenience, but I don't flip or flick open knives, I'm not even sure if I know the proper method, nor need to. My EDC pivot is probably tighter than most on here would prefer, and I open it smoothly, with preference on strength of lockup over speed.

I guess a lot of people think their knives will be used for self defense purposes, and I have a few SD type knives, but if it comes to that, my right hand is going for something chambered in 9mm. My knife mostly cuts boxes.
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Not to start the same old argument, but there are no absolutes when it comes to self defense, and what you may be able to reach for. What if someone grabs your gun? I personally don't think it's a bad idea to carry an easily deployable one handed folder on your off side, for the purpose of gun retention.
 
Yes, there are no absolutes in any of it, and situational awareness goes a long way. I do not allow people in close proximity to my firearm. And yes, I believe an offhanded knife, light, or sturdy pen is a fine idea.

None of that really applies to a speed preference on my EDC folder though.
Best of luck.
 
craytab said:
I can only really remember one recent thread on the topic and I don't even remember how recent that was or what recent even means. If there is a bunch of recent gkd threads on the subject I think I missed it. If I did miss it I would like to know, thus the request for links. Why make a thread about recent threads if there aren't "so many" of these recent threads? Show them to us to validate your claim op.

Personally, I enjoy a fast opening knife. It's fun. Necessary but fun.
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Gotcha -

I don't think there are a ton of threads that deal specifically with the speed of opening, but I can remember seeing mention of "fast opening" or "not as fast as my x" etc when people were either reviewing or discussing knives - I think that may be what the OP is talking about, but don't want to speak for them -

I agree - I like a nice, fast opening knife, myself. That said, I also carry a Vic Waiter and it is anything but fast lol.


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mqqn
 
I understand what you are saying. I have fond memories of my Dad taking out his knife, opening it with two hands, using it and then folding it back up, with two hands, and putting it back in his pocket.
I'm actually back to EDCing a traditional folder.
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I think mqqn pretty much got it right, but in addition i think the topic comes up so there is something else to talk about. I think we talk about every aspect of knives so much that we have to break it down into very specific categories to have something new to discuss. And even then, we still talk about the same thing over and over. Never gets old to me :)
 
I think concern over speed is primarily about defensive use, but is also very important for a variety of other roles, such as boating and equestrian things.

For me, classic nail nick 2 handed opening works just fine, but 1 handed opening is fun.
 
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