What's the knife that breaks your rules?

Charr

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We all here have some form of "Rule System" in our heads, or sometimes actually written out, but which we buy our knives, so I was wondering what knife would be able to break your rules.

What I mean is that, in my case, I have a set of internal rules that govern what I am willing to buy, and how much I am willing to spend to get it. There are 5 knives, though, that break my own rules, and I know that, given the opportunity to buy one of them, I would break my rules to do it if I was able.
These are not my personal preferences for a knife, but rather something that I always leave in place to police my own spending, and keep myself at a reasonable level, especially when my preferences go beyond what would be reasonable.

My general personal set of rules, in order of most significant to least:

1. If I'm not going to carry it, I don't buy it.
2. If it costs more than $1000 dollars, I don't buy it.
3. If the materials and the construction do not warrant the cost to me, I don't buy it.
4. If I don't have confidence in the knife's longevity, I don't buy it.
5. If it's something that I cannot get warrantied, I don't buy it.

The knives that break my rules:
1. Shirogorov in general, because I can't get it warrantied without a good deal of risk on my part, and a supreme wait time, though I do have confidence in the longevity of the design overall. I do own 2 of their knives right now, and have owned a lot more in the past 6-10 months, trying to find the one for me.

2. Todd Begg Bodega, which is far above my $1000 spending limit, though I would carry the knife.

3. Shirogorov Custom Division 95T Slim, because it is again way above my spending limit, and comes with the same issue as other Shirogorov knives in general, but I would carry the knife.

4. Jake Hobach A-15, because it is again way above my spending limit, but I would definitely carry the hell out of the knife.

5. Stan Wilson Advisor...I don't even really need to tell anyone that this is above my spending limit, and I honestly don't think that I could ever carry this knife, though I would certainly want to. This knife is the grail above all others for me, but it is something that I cannot justify hardly at all for myself to ever actually purchase, not to mention the insanely low chances of getting one.


So what are your rules, and what knife or knives break your rules?
You don't have to be talking about the same price point of knives either really. Everyone has some rules that make their purchases more fair and consistent, in all price points. I just got to this price point and have not moved past it yet, nor do I honestly plan to for a very long time unless my income drastically increases.
 
I have two knives that break my general rules:

ZT 0770 CF--I generally don't care for assisted knives, but I like this one
Three Sisters Forge Beast--I don't care for thumb studs normally.

Everything else I have is manual flippers and spydieholes.
 
for me my rules are Bearings, flipper and value are usually a must. With that said the knife I would own that breaks all of them is the sebenza. And its the only one so far that I would break my rules to own and carry but given the price and since I all ready had one and sold it have me waiting to outgrow my bearings obsession. But I have no doubt when I grow up and get over gadgetry that will be the knife I retire from the hobby with.
 
I don't buy soft-steel knives, but I love Leatherman tools.

I HATE bladeplay, but a little bit in a Leatherman is OK.
So yeah. Leatherman breaks my rules.
 
If a knife doesn't follow my rules, I get rid of it immediately. I haven't yet met a knife good enough to warrant sacrificing the characteristics I want in a knife intended for carry and use.
 
If a knife doesn't follow my rules, I get rid of it immediately. I haven't yet met a knife good enough to warrant sacrificing the characteristics I want in a knife intended for carry and use.

I initially had the same thoughts, but I did manage to find a few that break my rules like I said, so either my rules are too strict for my own actual use, or there are some knives that the rules are just worth breaking for me, and I managed to find them.
Honestly glad I did in the case of my Shirogorovs, since they are by far some of the best knives I have ever handled, going up past most of the customs I have had or handled easily.
 
I did not want a flipper until I got one. It works well; not an issue. I carry my southward AVO edc, and my crk's are in the safe. That's pretty radical, but it works. I carried Zaans and Large Sebbies previously.
I bought an expensive Garett Bull 3.5 Shamwari framelock with a FRONT flipper. May never carry it, although a beautiful knife, m390 blade. Front flipper apparently is more than I want to mess with...it is slow and cumbersome to open. Will sell it sometime or gift it to a kid, but not yet.
I wanted a Hinderer until I bought two...not my cup of tea. Weak detent turned me away.
Five ounces max, about 4.5" closed length, decent steel, prefer titanium or g10 hybrid, hate aluminum scales and pocket clips that shred my Levi pocket-top. Grip-width of close to 0.450" (large crk's) is the sweet-spot.
Any amount of blade-play or lock-rock means DUMP IT NOW!
I love frame-locks and spurn anything else. Just bought, today, a Slysz Bowie that I think I'm going to love...it clicks all of the right boxes...and how can you beat a Taiwan Spydie?
 
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I only have two rules:

1) I buy stuff I like

2) I don't go over $1000

I have yet to break either rule ;-)
 
Before you throw me from the rafters, hear me out til the end. Let's just do EDC knives here.
1. Nothing over $100. My only EDC is a Victorinox Pioneer,(except for the Leatherman Kick in my satchel). I do not want something that I am afraid to beat to perdition. Now, I buy quality and I take care of my tools, but a knife is just that to me; a tool. I do not need a $400 Sebenza, (not crazy about that knife by the way), I need a sharp edge that I can sharpen easily. Screwdrivers are nice, a sharp pointy steel thing is always fun too.
2. Good Steel. I like soft steel that takes a great edge and can be sharpened easily. Edge retention is not that big of a deal to me. I own a stone, and I use a stone.
3. Nothing big. Honestly, I don't need a knife with a 4 inch blade for EDC. My bushcraft knives do, but I don't need it for 99% of the tasks I run into in life.

If something breaks these rules, I don't want it.
 
If I want it I'll buy it, really don't care if its going to be used.
I try to be simple.
 
Rules are meant to be broken!
When it says "Don't Climb the Rocks!", that's how you know the true adventure lies in that direction. :)

I don't much care for rules, even self-imposed ones. ;)
 
For sure Shiro. I agree about the warranty, but man those shiros are amazing. I was going to buy one this past weekend and ended up with the Auto Strider/Pro-Tech collaboration.
 
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Gifts from well meaning NKP's. Between them they break nearly all my rules. Black blade, half serrated, American tanto, AO, Chinese made, fiddly lock. Fortunately no flippers :cool: They actually are not terrible knives overall. The Milwaukee is fine for messy household chores and the "Endorser" is a convenient size to carry now and then, especially when I'm going to be seeing the one who gifted it.
 
Strider SNG.

Meh fit and finish

Meh aesthetics

Overly thick blade stock

Overly chunky in general

Horrible cutting edge to handle ratio

Overpriced for the build quality and materials (IMO)

........not a sebenza :D

Yet I just bought another one to replace the one I sold last week. I don't know man.....there's just something cool about them that I can't explain:):thumbup:
 
Strider SNG.

Meh fit and finish

Meh aesthetics

Overly thick blade stock

Overly chunky in general

Horrible cutting edge to handle ratio

Overpriced for the build quality and materials (IMO)

........not a sebenza :D

Yet I just bought another one to replace the one I sold last week. I don't know man.....there's just something cool about them that I can't explain:):thumbup:

They are the perfect combination of usability (Sebenza) and ruggedness (XM-18). Too bad they aren't built like a CRK or Hinderer. I LOVE mine, just wish it felt as solid as my XM-18. It'd be my perfect knife if that were the case. Congrats on the new buy!
 
Been on the fence regarding the ZT0350. It's an assisted flipper that doesn't come in a color I like, but I'm drawn to it. I haven't purchased one, and I'm not sure if I ever will. I tried a frame-lock, and that just won't fly. Gave that one away without hesitation (Zancudo), but the new owner uses it all the time.

-No frame locks.
-No flippers.
-No assist.
-No asymmetrical scales.
-No more than $200.

Figured out the first 4 on the list by trying them already. :D
 
They are the perfect combination of usability (Sebenza) and ruggedness (XM-18). Too bad they aren't built like a CRK or Hinderer. I LOVE mine, just wish it felt as solid as my XM-18. It'd be my perfect knife if that were the case. Congrats on the new buy!

Thanks man, I'm glad to have one back in my collection!

BTW remember I sold my last one to fund that 3.5inch XM with textured CF? Yeah well it turns out I don't like the heft and size of the 3.5 so I sold it the same day......

Now I'm hunting for a 3 inch slicer:)
 
Thanks man, I'm glad to have one back in my collection!

BTW remember I sold my last one to fund that 3.5inch XM with textured CF? Yeah well it turns out I don't like the heft and size of the 3.5 so I sold it the same day......

Now I'm hunting for a 3 inch slicer:)

Yeah, I saw your post in the "Knife Life" thread. It's definitely a hefty knife. I can see it being too much for someone, but I LOVE mine. It's my favourite knife. Although, I think the Spanto grind had a little something to do with you not liking it as well (which I believe you mentioned). That is NOT an EDC type grind, unless you need it for work. I'm a career firefighter, and can't justify the Spanto grind, even with my usage. (mine is the Skinner grind)

Good luck with the hunt! I've been dealing with Rob, trying to get a new one direct from the ranch. I'd really like a spear point, we'll see what they've got when the next batch is ready to ship.
 
My only rule when it comes to knives is NO TIP DOWN knives. There is no knife out there that would convince me to buy it.
 
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