What's the price of the "Quest" please.

Bagheera

Bagheera

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Hello Mr Fennel,

I have asked it before in a post and also in an email, but haven't received an answer.

As the formerly known as QUEST Talonite knife has been introduced on the "shot show" could somebody tell me the suggested retail price.
I would very much like to buy one but so far haven't seen/heard anything about it's price.
Tom Mayo makes very beautifull custom Talonite knives for $250 so I would expect the "Q...." to be less, correct me if I'm wrong.

Also would the spine of the blade be rounded or have a fairly sharp counter as that would be handy when trying to make fire using the spine to scrape my firesteel.
Or would the relatively soft Talonite get damaged/burnt by the hot firesparks.

Please advise.

Cheers, Bagheera

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Bagheera,
Sorry for not posting the retail price of the 'knife formely known as the QUEST', but we did not announce the pricing until at the SHOTSHOW. We have also been wrestling with the name issue since then. This knife is a real departure for CAMILLUS, in that it is MUCH more costly to make than anything we have yet to produce. We have decided to NOT set a suggested retail price on this knife.

I will say that on 2 different internet dealers sites, they are priced at $250 +/- $10. This is about where I expected them to be, maybe a little lower. The problem with TALONITE is the cost of TALONITE. It is off scale expensive. A good round figure is 16 times the cost of ATS-34, which is not a cheap blade material to start with.

I will check into the firestarter uses. The tang of the blade does have a square spine[except for right before the point], and the material should be plenty hard enough. The only thing that I need more info on is how it will workwith the firestarter, in that TALONITE is a 'non-sparking' metal.


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Stay Sharp!
Will Fennell
Camillus Cutlery

Bagheera,
I've since called Rob Simonich to check on the firestarting capabilities. Ron Hood tested TALONITE knives for use with common firestarter, and found they work fine. He did say the you should use the BACK, or sine of the blade, not the edge. When the edge was used, it worked, but caused some dis-coloration and some of the 'firestarter rod' seemed to stick to the edge. Hope this helps!


Thanks for the interest!

Will Fennell/CAMILLUS CUTLERY


[This message has been edited by Will Fennell (edited 01-31-2000).]
 
Dear Mr. Fennel,

Thanks for the info, I'm a little disappointed that the "Quest" is priced as it is. I thought that making it as a production knife would lower the price somewhat even though the Talonite and machining costs are high.

I will have to pass this "love of my life" until somebody is offering it somewhat less pricey.
Or I'll use the $250 to get me a handmade Talonite knife, just as a Dutch knife collectors friend just did from Mayo knives.

Thanks again for the info but with the Dollar being as strong as it is and our Euro starting on a freefall the Quest will be an unreachable luxery for me.

Best regards from a little disappointed Scout leader
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Bagheera

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Bagheera, you might want to check with Allen Blade for Talonite. On his web site, Allen Blade and MEUK, he lists several Talonite blades at what can only be considered a reasonable price. He also offers several blade styles. IIRC, <u>all</u> are less than $250. Or at the very least, most are.

As for me, I'm going to hold off on getting a Talonite blade, or ordering another, until after I see what the actual "market" price will be on the Quest. I already have a custom on order from Rob Simonich, but that will be, what now... about 14 more months at the earliest before I'll be getting that. I am really hoping my check-book will bear the price of the Quest. But, if it won't, I will probably be ordering this neck knife in the drop point version, Talonite, from Allen. Heck, I may anyway, but that's another story...

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"Absolute safety is for those who don't have the balls to live in the real world."

[This message has been edited by rockspyder (edited 02-01-2000).]
 
Hello Rockspyder,

Thanks for the info but I read a post where Allan said that he wouldn't make Talonite knives anymore because of "pressure"/negative remarks from somebody?? who didn't like his lower prices.
Marion Popoff also commented on it and seems to be the "go between" person.
Thanks from Holland, Bagheera

"there still is a chance that there will be a Talonite knife used during Scouting in Holland".
 
So that's what James meant by "Sticker Shock"!

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James Segura
San Francisco, CA
 
Bagheera, Allen is still making Talonite knives. There was such an uproar through that thread that he finally same back and said that OK, he would continue making them. You sort of have to search through/read the entire thread (yeah, that is a pain) to get the right post. Unless he has changed his mind again since yesterday. Because, I just contacted him yesterday about the Neck Knife in Talonite, and was ready to make it.

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"Absolute safety is for those who don't have the balls to live in the real world."
 
Originally posted by stjames:
So that's what James meant by "Sticker Shock"!
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Sounds like it. I had really hoped it would be less myself. For that amount of money, I can get a custom TALONITE. I found one just today. Well, more today. There is always Allen Blades Talonite offerings as well. Of course, it will cut down on the wait time, I suppose.

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"Absolute safety is for those who don't have the balls to live in the real world."
 
Guys,
I understand your concerns. All I ask is please reserve your judgementuntil after you see the knives. We are duplicating Robs design as EXACT as possible. We are talking full tang construction, with a high performance full height flat grind. Satin finished. Contoured and grooved G10 scales. the sheath is coming along nicely[its the hold-up that keeps us from shipping now], its kind of a miniture version of the TERZUOLA CQB-1 sheath. Also made by BLADE-TECH, with the new miniture TEK-LOK. Very kewl package. We are going all out to do Rob's design justice. This will be a nice knife. The costs in this knife are driving the bean counters at CAMILLUS CRAZY. The materials in this knife alone cost many time more than the selling price of MOST camillus models. Expensive blade material, CNC'd scales, and expensive sheath. The knife is not cheap, but its nice,...very nice.

Once we get the sheaths finalized,...you will be able to get these knives ON DEMAND. Not a 2 year wait. This means we have to support our distributor network and dealer network. These things also cost $$$$.


We REALLY appreciate your interest and input concerning this project. I ask that you reserve your final judgement after seeing the final product. About 30 more days......

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Stay Sharp!
Will Fennell
Camillus Cutlery


 
Will,
One thing I keep leaving out of my posts... I have already asked a dealer to put me on the waiting list for one of these (the Talon) knives. I can see the knife in the other thread, "Introducing the Quest." It is nice, no doubt about that. I just hope the term... "street price", that I have already heard mentioned elsewhere... comes into play.
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"Absolute safety is for those who don't have the balls to live in the real world."
 
What Will says about Camillus doing this knife as exact as possible to the custom is entirely true! I am very impressed with the level of communication and dedication the folks at Camillus are showing. I was recently sent some ground blades for inspection, and they were done right! The full flat grind they did on these is pretty much flawless and with a good finish. Phil Gibbs called me the other day and ASKED if they could move the "beak" on the handle back 40 thousands of an inch! That folks is dedication to keep the design as original as possible. these knives will be very high quality, the biggest noticeable difference will be the blade finish. Mine are a 2 tone bead blast hand rubbed and the Talon will be satin finished all over. And as Will said, custom quality with no 2 year backlog.
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www.simonichknives.com
 
Thanks Rob, we are trying!


I always thought Phil Gibbs was a little 'anal'.


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Stay Sharp!
Will Fennell
Camillus Cutlery




[This message has been edited by Will Fennell (edited 02-10-2000).]
 
Originally posted by Will Fennell:
Thanks Rob, we are trying!
I always thought Phil Gibbs was a little 'anal'.
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You guys crack me up. I have no doubt these are going to be some SWEET blades.

40 thousandths, eh? Or 4 hundredths? I think I would want to ask approval before making THAT big a change, too. Geez, you could almost see that with the naked eye!

I'm kidding, I'm kidding!!!
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"Absolute safety is for those who don't have the balls to live in the real world."
 
Will,

I am looking forward to getting a CUDA TALON as soon as possible.

Unfortunately the price will probably limit sales to the general ELU.

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Will,
That comment will be VERY expensive!
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Say what you will, 0.04" is alot & this is Rob's design. It will be made his way or no way!!

The beauty & elegance of a knife are in the little details Gentlemen!

Thanks for all the help Rob,
Phil
 
Phil, knowing you are that "anal" (HEY! Will said it, not me!!) about faithfully holding to Rob's design can do nothing but make money for Camillus. Will and the rest of Camillus should (and I'm sure do) value that... attention to detail.
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I know that I want a Talon.

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inktomi
 
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