Whats the ultimate steel for a blade?

DeadboxHero said:
I'm an edge guy though, I'm always looking for the best edges and the best steels to compliment them.
Aus 8 is good stuff especially for the money but it's too soft and goes blunt too fast for my liking evern though it takes a good edge, But hey, I don't deny that sharpening and fancy steels ARE my obsession.
So I Want more.
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To each his own! :thumbsup: But that doesn't mean that people who aren't obsessed with with the same things are you are so because they don't actually use and sharpen their knives.

Rumor has it that some people actually use their knives and they are not made of CruWear and don't require mirror edges!
 
marcinek said:
To each his own! :thumbsup: But that doesn't mean that people who aren't obsessed with with the same things are you are so because they don't actually use and sharpen their knives.

Rumor has it that some people actually use their knives and they are not made of CruWear and don't require mirror edges!
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Amen man,

I don't want to come off as a snob haha


haha Oh I don't mirror polish everything. The right finish for the right job as they say. I'm not just a "sport" sharpener haha

Marci, if I snuck ya a little Cru-wear you might have a new favorite.

I feel ya though, all this knife stuff costs a ton, it's getting to the point where I have to start making them myself if I want to play.
 
DeadboxHero said:
Amen man,

I don't want to come off as a snob haha
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No worries, you're not. And besides, I'm a "geometry" snob. :D

And if you gave me a taste of CruWear, I probably wouldn't notice the difference between it and something like VG-10.

My palate isn't very sophisticated! :p
 
You want a nice and soft steel, that sharpens easily. If the edge keeps getting dull, it means you're using it wrong. There's this steel called 420j2 that's the hottest thing out there right now. One of it's many advantages is that it's corrosion resistant, which is very important, since it's crucial that you store your knife in it's leather scabbard for safety reasons.
 
Soooo, we're 5 pages in without even a general consensus. Ultimate steel? Ain'no sech ting....
 
The OP never came back. Drive-by posting? It seemed too vague to be legitimate from a knowledgeable poster, and he (?) never returned to clarify his question.
 
justjed said:
Hell, we didn't even have a good argument! Whutzup with that?
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My steel is better than your steel

Lol

Let's try this...

What's the best stainless?
What's the best stainless with longest edge retention?
What's best high carbon with longest edge retention?
What's toughest with longest edge retention?
 
If nothing else, it would be interesting to dig up this post in twenty years and see its relevance.

Without a large spectrum to draw from personally, in a folder I like M4 for the compromise between performance and relative ease of sharpening. 1095 will always be a beautiful thing. The fixed blade equivalent of these two for me is 3V and O1.
 
Mo2 said:
My steel is better than your steel

Lol

Let's try this...

What's the best stainless?
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Haven't personally found it, but I do like AEB-L and 14c.

Mo2 said:
What's the best stainless with longest edge retention?
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best due to longest edge retention?
Probably CPM S125V? Not too sure about this.

Mo2 said:
What's best high carbon with longest edge retention?
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High carbon that is best due to edge retention?
I would think Maxamet or CPM REX121

Mo2 said:
What's toughest with longest edge retention?
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Personally, I find PD1/CPM Cruwear fills this niche quite well.
 
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Oh, I'm the same way. But when opinions are based on inexperience, and repeating what someone else might have said because it sounded good, and without any further personal investigation, it's hard to remain polite sometimes. Like the 'surgical steel' folks, their mind is made up. They usually don't know anything about knives other than(maybe) how to use one, and as long as it cuts, and the name is catchy, they're in hog heaven.

But I didn't come here to argue or gripe, tho it might seem otherwise at times, just to point out that there are too many variables in the equation to make an empirical statement to the effect that alloy 'X' is the best thing that ever happened to the stock-removal cutlery world. Or that alloy 'Z' might be the best forging steel ever. But, they're likely NOT even similar alloys. So, which of those two is ultimate? And don't forget things like the user interface, and whether one is doing destructive or non-destructive testing. Also, the needs and expectations of the user will vary, so performance parameters are even harder to pin down, tho one has to remember that first and foremost, it needs to be able to cut stuff. Do you need a knife that will skin a humvee, or slice a tomato so thin you can read through it? Until we have a single knife that will do both of these without the need to resharpen, trying to suss the ultimate steel is a waste of time we can never get back. A fun, tho ultimately pointless (pun intended), exercise.

And yet I keep coming back...
 
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