What's with this place?

You're correct. These are the best prices I've ever seen for new Chirs Reeve Sebenza's! Not just the classics, but all, including the wood inlays. Santa aughta be happy about this website. I have one already on the way from the CR shop or I'd jump on one of these.;)
 
Soon to go the way of deptserv, I'd say. I'm sure frogstickers will just love the attention you've given them for about one day.
 
I hope not Jefroman!
Looks like the small classic and the larges are not selling to well so they dropped the price. It also looks like the the Small regular is the best seller as it is priced higher than the large!
 
Jefroman, that's what happened to the dealer in the last one of these threads.
 
...........Jefroman, dealership wrecker extrodinare........... :eek:


ps.- just kidding around........... :D ;)
 
............... While they do have some good prices on what is probably / could be an overstocked slower seller. The others are retail or right at it, just like was mentioned previously. I fail to see how this could be a problem, but that is just my opinion. I hope Jeff hasn't 'ruined ' them. ;)
 
I'm not surprised though, I had to lower the price on a small regular used I was selling to $210 a few months ago before anyone would bite.

And I think it makes sense for a couple of reasons, there's price pressure on the bottom end due to the proliferation of acceptable frame locks. Also with the availability of fancier models like the wood inlay, allows more choice for the buyers and also puts downward price pressure on the non premium models.
 
Man! I didn't want to throw my two cents into this one ! But common sense never seemed to stop me in the past. So here it is. I sent this fellow an e-mail telling him not to feel bad about his post. It was done in good will. How was he or I, for that matter, suppose to know that as I write this the
Reeves folks are calling this gent to give him grief about not selling something HE OWNS at
the PROPER price. The real culprits here are the
CR co.policies on price structuring. What exactly is the point !? Dealers are from time to time going to sell his knives for less then
another dealer.Ya can't stop it and he certainly can't monitor EVERY retailers sales. I just don't get it. Reeve Has the BEST folder on the bloody planet. It is always going to be an expensive knife. I actually don't care what they do.What I do object to, is them coming in here in the dead of the night, so to speak and picking up on someones naive post, thereby, painting the poster in a bad light. It gives one pause as to what one can and can not say here. I know most posters are only kidding and pokeing fun at jefroman but having been in his shoes not that long ago,I really felt bad about what I posted. If there is any fun to be poked it should be toward the CR co. < What a bunch of cry babies! Oh! yeah I almost forgot.I just bought two more lg Sebs. LOL there ya go, bad mouth the guy and give him your money. "Would someone with a small rain drop damascus,ebony wood inlay, please just cut my throat"
;)
 
I think it's helpful to make a differentiation:

CRK dealer minimum pricing policies, really it's probably not our business one way or the other.

Identifying a dealer and as a result, certain (good or bad) consequences occur. As a dealer you abide by the pricing policy or you don't. Maybe it's an accident. But as a dealer it's the risk you take.

I'm not picking on the dealer either, just trying to illustrate things like this happen.
 
As a professional salesperson and account manager (electronics) I am aware that it is totally illegal in this country for a manufacturer to enforce a minimum price on a product they sell by cutting a dealer off. Dealers are free to price products as they see fit; even if they sell under cost it is not legal to punish them by revoking their dealership.

The only thing the manufacturer can do is refuse to pay for an ad (if they have co-op advertising available to dealers). They can also "accidentally" mess up and not ship the product if they want to risk it...

That said, I am cetain that CR is aware of U.S. price fixing laws and abides by them completely.

Which is why I am curious as to what happened to the other dealer referenced in the thread.

Any thoughts?
 
not quite true. in the distributor contract, the parties can agree to anything they want. i would think that if a manufacturer wants to make sure that there will be no ubauthorized price undercutting, they can insert a clause that sets a minimum selling price. if the contract is not honored, the non breaching party can sue, or more likely, use a breach of contract provision in the contract that stipulates a remedy, such as revocation of the distribution rights for the product. illegal, hardly. just contract law.
 
Vactor is precisely correct. Two parties can stipulate to anything they wish in a contract. CRK can ask all/any dealer(s) to agree to anything they want, and furthermore, they can detail the consequences of non-compliance. In this case, I would assume that CRK simply makes all dealers agree to sell all CRK knives at MSRP, or agree to sever the dealership agreement with them.

General rules for business dealings are used most times when a contract is formed between two business parties, but two parties can, and often do, contract to the contrary of the these terms. What robenza speaks of may be true, except when two parties expressly contract that they do not wish the normal rules to apply. Why would dealers agree to this? Probably becuase it is the only way they can obtain knives from CRK.

Bucky
 
I beg to differ...price fixing laws are indeed in place, and they exist to encourage free trade in the marketplace.

Many stipulations can be put into a contract between a manufacturer and a reseller, but "sell at this price or we cut you off" isn't one of them.

For more information check out this link: http://www.antitrust.org/aei/Guidelines.htm

The following is an excerpt:

"Feel free to suggest retail prices to dealers but not to coerce them to accept those prices. Send them suggested price lists and promotional literature mentioning price. But do not extract an agreement from them to charge that price or threaten cancellation of dealerships if they elect an independent pricing strategy: guidance, yes; persuasion, yes; agreements, no; coercion, no."

I rest my case.

And by the way...I am in no way suggesting that CR is involved in price fixing. I am merely responding to the dialog in this thread.
 
you are not quite right. price fixing involves collusion among the suppliers to _undermine_ free trade. if i make an agreement with a re seller to abide by our agreed upon price at retail, that is ok. if i am the only supplier of a product of that 'type' (i.e. i am the ONLY supplier of knives, period, or, say soy beans) or, if i make anagreement with all the other suppliers of the type (all knife makers agree not to sell knives to re sellers for less than $100 each), then i AM price fixing. again, contract law applies, and just cause the watchdog group encourages otherwise, does not mean that their encouragement is binding on others.
 
Advertised price and actual selling price are different. The dealer CAN sell them for whatever he wants. Advertising that LOW price is a different story.
 
Originally posted by jefroman
So they are getting their dealership revoked?
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I thought that was clear from <A HREF="http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=175958&highlight=status+AND+revoked">this therad</A> in which you have participated, or No?
 
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