What's your opinion on this unusual knife

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Dmitry

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What's your opinion on this unusual knife?

http://ndk-17.narod.ru/index.html

Damascus 12000 layers
Traditional japanese heat treatment Yakiba with clay hammon forming
Traditional japanese handle wrapping.
Blade spine thicknes 10mm
Grind is similar to one meet on SOG X-32 RECONDO or Emerson Commander 2000 (something between traditional V-grind and chisel grind)

Blade for close combat with cutting and chopping preferred to thrusting.



[This message has been edited by Dmitry (edited 06-08-2001).]
 
Sorry, I could not get the picture to load.

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Picture is there, just wait little longer or if you get little icon with red cross instead of picture just right click on it and chose Show picture.
If all fails then I can e-mail it.
In a few words it's collectable version of new knife for Russiam SWAT teams.
 
My browser won't load it, either.

-Razor

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Russian swat teams?

The steel is beautiful and the handle wrap looks fine as well. But the blade shape is Weird, to say the least. How is that knife supposed to be used?

I makes me think of a Yakuza 'Godfather' handling over something like that to a lieutenant to remove his finger after failing a task in some way. It looks like a highly effective pinkie remover to me
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It looks like a highly reliable hand remover to me.

A cross between a chisel and a BK&T machax.
 
This is obviously an "art" knife, rather than a military/special ops piece as it was pitched in the opening post. Pretty enough, though. I kinda like it.

-Razor

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I can picture it being used to either dice onions or lop off arms. I'd hafta agree the more I look at it the more I like it.
 
Looks like a wood working tool to me. Maybe a draw knife for a one handed wood worker.

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Sort of Kukri with a Tanto grind.

My experience is that most new designs that don't resemble a long proven blade are either for very specialized use or are useless and just "art".

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I added fotoes of knife creator A.Kochergin at
http://ndk-17.narod.ru/index.html
NDK-17 is new knife for SOBR (russian SWAT analog).
Knife was desingned with slashing and cutting preffered to thrusting in mind. Creator (A.Kochergin) has lots of field experience under his belt and in some way he is russian J.Keating.
The knife shown is NDK-17 collectors edition (it will be sold at 1.500$ in wooden box with bonus of two video tapes showing special techniques).
Service version will be made of stainless steel and have polymer handle (much more cheaper than collectors adition).

 
Whoa!! That's wierd, pretty cool though.
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It should be called the "Tankri", a mix between a tanto and a kukri!
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Well, it looks cool but is quite dangerous, to the intented user too. Any tactical "knife" without proper guard preventing the hand slipping forwards is just simply dangerous. Tactical knives should be reliable in wet/slippery (blood?) hands too. The "point" is too thick for efficient thrusting, the edge geometry is not efficient for slashing. The demonstrated grips are unsafe - a hard impact can easily pry out the "knife" from the hands.
Actually this IS the ULTIMATE SHARPENED PRYBAR!
I think the Russian military tradition provides much more useful but definitely not so "revolutionary" knife and dagger designes. The good old Cossack's daggers are very efficient assault weapons with some general utility properties added.

 
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