What's your poison?

netguy1999 said:
I'm kind of partial to this one right now. I've alway had a love for 1911's :)

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Man that is one custom 1911. The 30lpi front strap looks flawless. The slide cut outs are very unique. I love building on S&W 1911's. They spent many hours on the super slow motion camera learning all the tricks of the 1911's recoil. Mine have internal cuts that are very unique. Their new CNC equipment leaves almost mirror smooth machine marks. I haven't seen a chatter mark gets. The dragon scale serrations not only look cool, they are also super effective and don't chew up holsters or fingers.

I built one recently that can shoot 2inch groups @ 50 yards with minimal work. The grips are very attractive too. All around nice pistol.
 
I am somewhat of an oddball, I am not a fan of double action autos, but I am a confirmed 1911 freak, I've owned Colts, Springfields, and Kimbers finally settling on Kimber for best bang for the buck. The pride of my collection is a Kimber CustomII, bought bone stock, but had it tuned and had action and trigger work done by Larry Vickers back before he became a demigod lol! My other favorite pistols are my Glocks. I know I said I don't like double actions autos but Glocks are actually not true double actions, and I am a big proponent of function over form. Not nearly as Sexy as my 1911's or a Browning Hi Power, but those pistols just cannot be killed!
 
gurkha berserka said:
Man that is one custom 1911. The 30lpi front strap looks flawless. The slide cut outs are very unique. I love building on S&W 1911's. They spent many hours on the super slow motion camera learning all the tricks of the 1911's recoil. Mine have internal cuts that are very unique. Their new CNC equipment leaves almost mirror smooth machine marks. I haven't seen a chatter mark gets. The dragon scale serrations not only look cool, they are also super effective and don't chew up holsters or fingers.

I built one recently that can shoot 2inch groups @ 50 yards with minimal work. The grips are very attractive too. All around nice pistol.
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Yeah, this was my Grail 1911. It shoots so smooth. The recoil, or lack of, is amazing. My second favorite behind this is my S&W TRR8 327 - 8 rounds of .357 :)
 
Criminey Crickets, you guys have some really sharp looking rigs! :thumbup: All the stuff I have is old school. Perhaps it's the proper match as I'm old school as well. ;) That S&W 1911 leaves me speechless and that ain't easy!
 
netguy1999 said:
Here's the TRR8 just back from the range. Needs a cleaning :)

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Really nice wheel gun. It's like the tactical version of Jerry Miculek match gun. Moon clips turn a revolver into a reloading lightning bolt. They can be as fast or faster to reload than an auto in the right hands. You can also shoot 38 special or light 357. The .357 125gr is a known man stopper.

I had a nice pefirmance center 629 with removable compensator and intergal mount. It has a nice round butt with rosewood grips. Sold it for a Winchester 70 in .280 Rem.
 
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gurkha berserka said:
...two stage match trigger. The first stage is two pounds, then you hit the wall and need an additional 3.5lbs to release the hammer. It feels amazing, unheard of trigger in a bullpup....
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How does that two stage trigger work as far as reset? Does it reset within the 3.5lbs or into the 2lb range. Pardon my dumb question please but sounds like a pretty cool setup.
 
ndoghouse said:
How does that two stage trigger work as far as reset? Does it reset within the 3.5lbs or into the 2lb range. Pardon my dumb question please but sounds like a pretty cool setup.
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I dunno how the Tavor version works but I have a Giessele Warfighter in my AR-I like it a lot, and it's a very short reset on doubletaps.
 
ndoghouse said:
How does that two stage trigger work as far as reset? Does it reset within the 3.5lbs or into the 2lb range. Pardon my dumb question please but sounds like a pretty cool setup.
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It has an extremely short , crisp, and audible reset. It resets itself to the 2nd or wall of the 3.5lbs final stage so there is no additional take up. This thing has ZERO over travel. The lack of over travel and ultra short reset creates a double tapping machine. I have a Rock River Arms national match 2 stage in my AR, but the Geissele is light years ahead. They use S7 tool steel and full power hammer springs. The hard tool steel allows for precise dimensions that will last a long time.

Geissele tests all of their products in extreme conditions. They offer triggers for a variety of rifles now. They have a variety of AR triggers, something like five or six different styles, AK, Tavor, and they are working on an AUG trigger pack if what I hear through the grape vine Is true.

The "Lightning Bow" is the actual trigger itself. The bow is slightly arched, broad, and flat. The stock trigger was very vague which isn't a bad thing for a surprise shot, but it was heavy and the reset was out there. I initially installed the Trigger Pack without installing the Lightning Bow. I got a lighter pull, but the trigger still had a squirt gun feel due to the heavy trigger spring. The Lightning Bow eliminated all the take up except for the 1st stage of the trigger system. The trigger has zero movement with the safety "ON", and feels rock solid. It reminds me of a Colt Gold Cup with its extra broad trigger, super short reset and light pull. The initial first stage is like a safety feature designed to expose the sear only when the wall of the 2nd stage is reached. I prefer 2 stage triggers in my military rifles and singe stage or set triggers in my bolt guns.
 
I am going to have to look into those triggers GB. They sound great. I usually replace the triggers in my rifles immediately with a Timney if they make one for the gun. But I can see they are getting some competition these days. Will have to do some research and testing to see which I prefer. Thanks for all the details.
 
Shavru said:
I am going to have to look into those triggers GB. They sound great. I usually replace the triggers in my rifles immediately with a Timney if they make one for the gun. But I can see they are getting some competition these days. Will have to do some research and testing to see which I prefer. Thanks for all the details.
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That reminds me, I talked to my gunsmith friend, and he'll be doing a trigger job on my mom's S&W 642 for free. He said it won't be hard, and it won't cost much, and he considers my family friends, he'll do it for her for free.

As for my stuff, I have considered a trigger pack for my AR-15. The trigger is pretty good, no grit or issues, but it is a bit on the heavy side. As for my other stuff, no way I'm having any trigger work done on my Schmidt-Rubin. The trigger on that thing is scary light, with no grit, next to no overtravel, and no issues that need any work. My 1911 had some trigger work done from the factory and is already pretty good, I could possibly buy one of those spring kits for my M1 Garand or send the trigger pack to Smith Enterprises for some work, and I could possibly send in my SIG P225 to Grayguns for some work, but before I send it in for trigger work I need to get the feed issues fixed.
 
Great to hear Scara, With a good trigger job that S&W 642 should be an incredible smooth shooting gun if it is anything like the standard for that model. You mom should love it (and you too when you manage to borrow it for range practice ;) )
 
"audible reset"? OK ... dumb question time again. How the heck can you hear trigger reset? Yall dont wear ear plugs? I never did growing up but nowadays I do. Mom always told me after them Who and AC/DC concerts that I was going to go deaf. She never said anything about shootin. I dont need plugs for .22 but pretty much everything else I do.
 
You should still use protection with .22s. Hearing loss is cumulative, even if it happens just a bit at a time.
 
ndoghouse said:
"audible reset"? OK ... dumb question time again. How the heck can you hear trigger reset? Yall dont wear ear plugs? I never did growing up but nowadays I do. Mom always told me after them Who and AC/DC concerts that I was going to go deaf. She never said anything about shootin. I dont need plugs for .22 but pretty much everything else I do.
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You can hear the reset even with ear muffs on. You can also "feel" it through the trigger. It's a very strong reset due to the extra power hammer spring. It has ten times the force of a Glock or 1911 reset.
 
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