When did "indestructible" become the main selling point...

nothings indestructible :)

but anyways... i dont mind a knife thats super tuff and can stand stupid abuse. what irks me is when a knife is overbuilt and becomes a sharpened prybar or boat anchor.
 
I like my BK-9 - big & tough, it can chop and it can baton.

But I like to play with knives so I go camping with more than one.
- I'll take a knife for chopping & batoning. (BK-9 or KA-BAR Kukri Machete or HI Khukuri)
- I'll take a knife for carving. (Mora Bushcraft Triflex)
- I'll take a knife for food prep/slicing. (Opinel or Mora Stainless)
- My EDC SAK
- My EDC LM Wave

Different knives for different tasks saves the problem of trying to slice a tomato with a huge sharpened pry bar.
 
J.Davey said:
When did "indestructible" become the main selling point of a knife? I often see "toughest knife", etc., in posts here, but I rarely see "how well does it CUT or SLICE". I also see it as a huge selling point for some companies. I should be a bit more clear. It seems that if a knife is on the longer side, people always want to know if it can chop. When and why is this so important in a knife to people. I have never had the NEED to use a knife for chopping a tree down.

Please keep in mind this is just a question. I'm not trying to start an argument. I like a tough knife, too.
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Sometimes fixed blades are asked to do things far beyond the range of cutting stuff. People use what they have on hand, having a knife that is up to virtually any task is very appealing.
For warranty reasons these things are usually very thick at the edge, however, that doesn't mean they can't be made to cut like a razor. After thinning out the edge of my .33" thick Scrapyard Regulator, it is one of the sharpest knives I own, and can pry a door off its hinges too.
 
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People like tough knives. I do also but want a knife that slices well. You can have both. Just get a Sebenza!:D
 
J.Davey said:
When did "indestructible" become the main selling point of a knife? I often see "toughest knife", etc., in posts here, but I rarely see "how well does it CUT or SLICE". I also see it as a huge selling point for some companies. I should be a bit more clear. It seems that if a knife is on the longer side, people always want to know if it can chop. When and why is this so important in a knife to people. I have never had the NEED to use a knife for chopping a tree down.

Please keep in mind this is just a question. I'm not trying to start an argument. I like a tough knife, too.
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Straight answer? When we stopped teaching our children how to use tools correctly. If you don't understand that there are fundamental differences between knives, crowbars, screwdrivers and axes that prevent them from being interchangable, you're going to need indestructible knives. If you believe in using the right tool for the job, it isn't a selling point at all.
 
I'm not sure I've heard of one that's being touted as literally 'indestructible'. The idea of having a knife that's very strong and tough is absolutely relevant if you're shopping for a survival knife, or something you expect to use in harsh conditions.

I also expect, that it may be as it is with people who buy watches that are water resistant to 300 meters. They'll never go 300 meters underwater, but they figure if the watch is good for that then it will survive a dunk in the kitchen sink, or the swimming pool. A very, very tough knife should last a very long time when all you use it for is cutting packing tape and lunch meat.

SP
 
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yablanowitz said:
Straight answer? When we stopped teaching our children how to use tools correctly. If you don't understand that there are fundamental differences between knives, crowbars, screwdrivers and axes that prevent them from being interchangable, you're going to need indestructible knives. If you believe in using the right tool for the job, it isn't a selling point at all.
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Right answer:)
 
Indestructible has probably been a main selling point for fixed blades since the dawn of marketing.
Indestructible for folders seems to be a newish thing and it goes by the term "hard use."
 
yablanowitz said:
Straight answer? When we stopped teaching our children how to use tools correctly. If you don't understand that there are fundamental differences between knives, crowbars, screwdrivers and axes that prevent them from being interchangable, you're going to need indestructible knives. If you believe in using the right tool for the job, it isn't a selling point at all.
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I agree.
 
yablanowitz said:
Straight answer? When we stopped teaching our children how to use tools correctly. If you don't understand that there are fundamental differences between knives, crowbars, screwdrivers and axes that prevent them from being interchangable, you're going to need indestructible knives. If you believe in using the right tool for the job, it isn't a selling point at all.
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Yab speaks truth, as expected. ;)
 
It's a case of buying a piece of mind.

For example, my Marathon watch is rated to go down 1000ft underwater. Will I ever dive down that deep? Probably not, but it's nice to know it'll be okay if I drop it in the sink. :p
 
Wonder what it would take to completely destroy a Mission Knives knife.
Their literature claims the hytrel handle can withstand alot of abuse, that
combined with Ti or A2 and it's a tuff sounding blade I would definitely
pay the $300 for it. The Ti ones at the least will be intact and usable a thousand years
from now if I understand correctly.
 
Vege-Taco said:
In my experience, blades in the 7-16" range have a very narrow range of ideal uses. Skinning and possibly fighting, but even for fighting I'd rather have a gun, or at least a much longer knife (sword?). :) They're too big for every day use and carry, and too small for chopping. Beats me why people need them if they're not into hunting and skinning.
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Out of curiosity what might one hunt that they would use a 16 inch knife to clean?
 
yablanowitz said:
Straight answer? When we stopped teaching our children how to use tools correctly. If you don't understand that there are fundamental differences between knives, crowbars, screwdrivers and axes that prevent them from being interchangable, you're going to need indestructible knives. If you believe in using the right tool for the job, it isn't a selling point at all.
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The best response so far, in my humble opinion.:thumbup:
 
I watched a few videos from a link someone provided of dietructive knife test. The poster link the video to show the great value of owning a Busse and noted it was the only brand to score all 5's ot all 8's or whatever their scale was. The test was crazy to say the least and if you wanted to chop down trees I would agree it was not quite as good as having a hawk, but worked okay. The test of the hard use test proved nothing.

What really surprised me was the guy tried to peal an apple. If I was trying to sell this brand of knives I surely wouldn't have linked that video. Busse was the only brand that flat out failed at simple knife task. Many of the others chopped wood and while it might make you say a few words you shouldn't, you could still kind of cut stuff with them.

There is a reason bowie knives are a thing of the past for all but collectors. An yet the new generation continues to try to revive them. Too much tv I suspect. :) We have several hundred years of experiance to draw on when it comes to what blade designs do everything called upon and work great as a knife too.
 
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