When is the Extrema Ratio RAO vs. 4-Max test coming out?

"When is the Extrema Ratio RAO vs. 4-Max test coming out?"

Sometime after the 4 Max comes out? Does my upspeak annoy you?
 
Jens Schuetz said:
If I look at the official definition of a machine or mechanism a screw in pin would easily fall within that.
Crude mechanism for sure but still a mechanism.

More elegant would be if the pin would be spring loaded and jumps in automatically once the hole swings by but even then it would need some kind of manual release.
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Maybe if it was held by a spring and some kind of button....;)
 
Id like to see it just cause it annoys me that the test stops when the other knife fails. Id like to see what the cold steel triad can actually take before failure on each knife model.

Id also like to see some of cold steels other locks like the ti lite compared to an emerson. Truth in that is i could care less how the ti lite performed im just interested in what weigh load an emerson can handle...and im too cheap and lazy to test one myself.

I would.like to see the failure point of the pocket bushman lock though.
 
jbmonkey said:
Id like to see it just cause it annoys me that the test stops when the other knife fails. Id like to see what the cold steel triad can actually take before failure on each knife model.

Id also like to see some of cold steels other locks like the ti lite compared to an emerson. Truth in that is i could care less how the ti lite performed im just interested in what weigh load an emerson can handle...and im too cheap and lazy to test one myself.

I would.like to see the failure point of the pocket bushman lock though.
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I don't think an Emerson would score very consistently with The break in and other variables.
 
Sosa said:
For me a manually inserted external stop pin is not a part of the knifes lock.
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Indeed. The Frankenstein Bolt is attached via shock cord, if something happens to that and the pin is lost, it will have to rely on itself which is nothing more than a horizontal Axis lock.
 
jbmonkey said:
Truth in that is i could care less how the ti lite performed im just interested in what weigh load an emerson can handle...and im too cheap and lazy to test one myself.
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This is an important point for me in all of these tests. Personally, I know that these tests are Cold Steel's standard and that all of their existing designs have passed these tests. While, I'd like to know what it takes to make each Cold Steel model fail (particularly in the weight hang), the most important aspect of these tests for me is seeing how the other knife does in these conditions.
 
jbmonkey said:
Id like to see it just cause it annoys me that the test stops when the other knife fails. Id like to see what the cold steel triad can actually take before failure on each knife model.

Id also like to see some of cold steels other locks like the ti lite compared to an emerson. Truth in that is i could care less how the ti lite performed im just interested in what weigh load an emerson can handle...and im too cheap and lazy to test one myself.

I would.like to see the failure point of the pocket bushman lock though.
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The Ti-Lite liner is interesting. It has a bar reinforcing it. It also has a more aggressive angle, and cannot slip past the knife tang, as we have seen in other liner locks, as the bar gives more contact, and cannot be wedged up between the tang and the other liner. Pretty interesting liner lock, tbh.
 
ALLHSS said:
I hope they do it under the supervision of neutral parties, with a live audience, live streamed on their website. That way nobody can make any bs up or whine about the methods/validity. If Cold Steel is bold enough to do that, win or lose, I'll buy my first Cold Steel in a long time.

I haven't had either knife, but I have used the Triad on the Rajah 2 and found it perfectly easy to manipulate. The RAO's lock looks absolutely impractical. When it takes two hands and a long time to lock a knife completely, the simple fact is that it's unlikely you will be able/mindful enough to lock it fully in a stressful situation. A lock that you can't engage intuitively is worthless, no matter what claims the company makes of it being a "real fixed blade".

The above isn't a criticism of anyone who has or wants an RAO. I have no qualms with people wanting ridiculous/overbuilt/etc things, I get that they're cool in their own way. I just think the lock is pretty silly, and not the solution that the company touts it as.
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wich one did you buy?
;-)
 
i am a cold steel fan...i had a RAO

it is a beautifull knife imo...bought it because it was supposed to be the strongest knife the company sold ( asked for advice on telephone in beginning of my knife hobby)
Got the RAO loved it, played with it...got annoyed by the twisting band that attached to the stop pin.( when you twist in the stop pin, the elasticity of the band turns it back lose if you let go...grrr)

took it with me to the Woods and after some chopping i had to constantly adjust the pivot, lots of rattle and play...after every use...even some bigger carving tasks.

so sold it.

havent had that problem with any of my CS knives...they Always hold...they are Always solid, no play no nonsense.

imo there is only one more test CS has to do to proof once and for all that tri ad is the strongest.
and thats face the benchmade adamas.

if Cs beats that....its final
 
yes, youre right...i read to fast

but you realy dont trust these tests without some live stream audience added?
 
Last kershaw vs cold steel video CS was so kind te respond. saying that the axis lock has been defeated before. The adamas has a stronger axis than average BM models tough.

im pretty sure its going to go down some day
 
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