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When to throw away?

Discussion in 'Shop Talk - BladeSmith Questions and Answers' started by Cliff Carter Knives, Nov 15, 2020.

  1. Cliff Carter Knives

    Cliff Carter Knives KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    392
    May 30, 2011
    One of biggest struggles since getting into knife making has been when to get rid of items (worn belts, steel scraps, handle scraps)

    Most difficult is my pile of handle cutoffs. I keep anything over about 1/2” wide. Keep telling myself maybe I’ll use the cutoffs as spacers, etc but I never do. This is for normal things like g10 and micarta. Don’t even get me started on the exotic woods, hybrid scales, resins...

    So do you all chuck the cutoffs, or will there be a time when I’m happy I’m sitting on a pile of worn out belts and scale pieces?
     
  2. PEU

    PEU Gaucho Knifemaker Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    902
    Aug 6, 2006
    Belts I used to keep them a lot more than nowadays, I lost my patience to rubbing belts. Stabilized wood cutoffs I keep everything above one square inch and 1/4" thickness, liners cutoffs go to the dump usually.

    Pablo
     
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  3. kbright

    kbright

    76
    Jun 27, 2004
    I use my wood and G10 scraps to make bottle openers. These make nice small gifts.
    I have also made pull-cord grips for curtains the same way. I have bins of scraps that I'm too cheap to throw away.

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  4. Cliff Carter Knives

    Cliff Carter Knives KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    392
    May 30, 2011
    Appreciate the replies! Never thought to repurpose in that way.

    could probably toss some belts, but may hold onto the handle cutouts a bit longer now!
     
  5. TheEdge01

    TheEdge01

    Apr 3, 2015
    I use my belts till it becomes a waste of time using them. I keep wooden blocks for the same reason posted above. I keep larger steel scraps if it’s large enough to make a push dagger.
     
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  6. john april

    john april KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Feb 27, 2006
    i put all the neat little pieces in a cardboard box because i might use them someday. the box weighs about 4 pounds now :D
     
  7. Mark van Elteren

    Mark van Elteren

    56
    Jan 5, 2020
    I am also guilty of keeping wood offcuts for too long. Recently I installed a wood burning stove in the workshop, which makes getting rid of any wood pretty easy :) Regarding belts, I find that the more experience I have, the sooner I chuck them. I cut them when they are dull, so I have no reason to keep them. I do, however, keep J-weight belts, as they are great (and free, since you use them for grinding anyway) for hand sanding. I generally throw away smaller pieces of steel, if I can't fit my smallest paring knife on (if I decide to make a tool form an offcut, I label it and do it ASAP, so it is not rolling around collecting dust).

    I am planning on giving my old wood offcuts (in my previous shop) and carbon steel scraps to someone starting out - I don't have to look at them anymore, and someone is sure to find a use for them.
     
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  8. Cliff Carter Knives

    Cliff Carter Knives KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

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    May 30, 2011
    Very interesting ideas! It may help if I just do a better job organizing. Packing all of my cutoffs in a small box would feel better than having them scattered in my drawers. Same goes for the belts!
     
  9. AVigil

    AVigil Adam Vigil knifemaker working the grind Platinum Member

    Feb 17, 2009
    While grinding if I think "That is not doing what I want, why is that?" It is time to remove that belt.
    50 Grits go to be used on wood and grinding non knife stuff.

    100 and above will hang around until I can get no more out of them for non knife related grinding, then they get thrown away.

    One of the biggest false economies and time wasters is grinding a knife with a belt that does not do exactly what you want when you want it.
     
  10. Hengelo_77

    Hengelo_77 Basic Member Basic Member

    Mar 2, 2006
    I've made some cool beads from handle material leftovers to go with the knife
     
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  11. Triple Stripe Knives

    Triple Stripe Knives

    59
    Apr 24, 2020
    I keep all handle scraps. I make beads out of them. I've also been keeping tiny (less than half a square inch) pieces of steel. But that's kinda pointless, so I think I'm gonna stop.
     
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  12. DevinT

    DevinT

    Jan 29, 2010
    Keep as much as you can and let your kids throw it all away when you die.

    Hoss
     
  13. AVigil

    AVigil Adam Vigil knifemaker working the grind Platinum Member

    Feb 17, 2009
    Did you hear that Larrin?

    You get some cool stuff to throw away :)
     
  14. Pinoy Knife

    Pinoy Knife

    Aug 9, 2002
    use the wood scraps as file handles ,or unique knife handles like the leather stacked style add a couple pieces of scrap metal for guards /end caps/spacers.
    the scrap steel can be turned into handle broaches..
    makes it kinda fun/interesting to put it in your way to motivate you to use it up instead of hiding it in a box/drawer...
     
  15. Robert Erickson

    Robert Erickson KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Feb 2, 2014
    Like others, my threshold for throwing belts out has lowered. I do keep one somewhat worn 50-60 grit ceramic for knocking off the corners of unhardened blades so when I use a fresh sharp belt to do pre heat treat grinding I'm not shearing off all the fresh grit. I also use these to taper hidden tangs.
    I keep wood scraps 1.5" long or longer to use as bolsters and spacers.
     

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