When would you send a knife back?

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Jack Black said:
I saw the sharpening process in the film you recently posted too, but I've not seen a film of every knife GEC produce being sharpened. The claim you made would only be possible if you checked every one of GEC's knives yourself. Is 100% edge testing carried out?

Most of us here are big fans of GEC knives, but they don't have a reputation for coming from the factory sharp. My last GEC knife wasn't sharp, didn't particularly bother me, but I didn't think it unusual either. Perhaps you missed that one ;)
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Just a little food for thought, JB. There are other threads easily found that have opinions posted by respected members that claim to have experience that GECs aren't always that sharp.

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/s...First-GEC-first-impression?highlight=GEC+dull

After reading some of the other threads that turned up, I HOPE no one is responsible for making sure the GECs are able to slice paper before leaving the factory. Wouldn't say much about QC.

On the other hand, all it really says it that GEC isn't perfect. Who is?

To the OP, if you are unhappy, send the knife back. The things you see on the knives don't sound like deal breakers, and since this isn't the 70s, you should consider a knife that comes factory sharp a real bonus. But, on the other hand, if the money you spent on that knife came very dear, treat your decision in that manner.

Robert
 
Jack Black said:
I saw the sharpening process in the film you recently posted too, but I've not seen a film of every knife GEC produce being sharpened. The claim you made would only be possible if you checked every one of GEC's knives yourself. Is 100% edge testing carried out?

Most of us here are big fans of GEC knives, but they don't have a reputation for coming from the factory sharp. My last GEC knife wasn't sharp, didn't particularly bother me, but I didn't think it unusual either. Perhaps you missed that one ;)
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That is their standard test, done on every knife that leaves the Factory. No I don't personally check every one. Nothing is perfect. I'm simply relating what their process is.
No, I checked that one. I said "That's a Dull Knife. Let's send that one England" :sorrow:
 
Gentlemen, I think we can all agree that knives that leave the GEC facility, much like the knives leaving other reputable knife manufacturing facilities, may exhibit widely variable levels of sharpening.

To some it may be acceptable, to others not so much. Beyond that, let's just agree to disagree to prevent the constabulary from showing an interest where none should be necessary. ;)
 
Blues said:
Gentlemen, I think we can all agree that knives that leave the GEC facility, much like the knives leaving other reputable knife manufacturing facilities, may exhibit widely variable levels of sharpening.

To some it may be acceptable, to others not so much. Beyond that, let's just agree to disagree to prevent the constabulary from showing an interest where none should be necessary. ;)
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I'm sorry. I don't appreciate being mocked and called a liar on a Public Forum.
 
rma100 said:
I'm sorry. I don't appreciate being mocked and called a liar on a Public Forum.
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I think you're being a little more thin skinned that is called for under the circumstances. Let's let those dogs continue their snooze. They've earned it.
 
One of the reasons I buy older knives is that I usually find these at yard sales, flea markets and estate sales where I get to handle them first, this way there are no surprises.

As for your problems/gripes, I would sharpen them myself, (I always do anyway) and so long as they are not proud when open our closed I could live with it.

Other than that, fit and finish, obvious gaps, weak springs blade wobble, these are reasons to return a new knife.

Now I have several older knives from varied manufactures and the knives from the 50s and earlier ask seen to have better F&F than today's knives do, backsprings are flush open, closed and half stop and the bolsters cover the the sharp corner of the tang when the blade is closed, no sharp corners to wear out pockets.

So bottom line is that it's up to you, to me a hundred dollar knife is not a custom but it shouldn't have any cosmetic or mechanical issues, an example of that is my Case Swayback Jack backsprings flush all around, no gaps and reasonably sharp outta the box and at a moderate price, just goes to show what good QC can accomplish.
 
Blues said:
Gentlemen, I think we can all agree that knives that leave the GEC facility, much like the knives leaving other reputable knife manufacturing facilities, may exhibit widely variable levels of sharpening.

To some it may be acceptable, to others not so much. Beyond that, let's just agree to disagree to prevent the constabulary from showing an interest where none should be necessary. ;)
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I think that's perfectly agreeable. I'm not aware of any cutlery manufacturer claiming a 100% sharpness record, which of course would be nigh on impossible to maintain.

rma100 said:
I'm sorry. I don't appreciate being mocked and called a liar on a Public Forum.
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That certainly isn't the case. You made a very strong claim, which I don't think you can sustain in the light of the many experiences of GEC customers posting in this forum. That is not to question your integrity.
 
Jack Black said:
I think that's perfectly agreeable. I'm not aware of any cutlery manufacturer claiming a 100% sharpness record, which of course would be nigh on impossible to maintain.



That certainly isn't the case. You made a very strong claim, which I don't think you can sustain in the light of the many experiences of GEC customers posting in this forum. That is not to question your integrity.
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I don't care what you think. And who made you the arbiter of all comments?
 
I don't care what you think. And who made you the arbiter of all comments?
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(Sorry you'll have to explain the last bit).
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Nope. Don't. It's time to take any personal issues and vendettas elsewhere. Subsequent finger pointing and insults will be assessed infractions.
 
Sorry for this, I certainly have no axe to grind, I'm a GEC customer, and believe in playing the ball not the man :)
 
Back to the OP's original question, I've only ever sent one knife back, it was for excessive side to side play, but the company that made it, small one in France which had me a little concerned sending it back, but, they cleared that up and shipped her back in record time and were very nice folks to deal with, one can get by with any company.

As for GEC's, I've owned, if memory serves, about 8 all in all, whether they were paper cutting ready? I'd say they would certainly harm you but as most have commented on, they do not arrive with any 'good' memory of being what most of us knife knuts would call sharp. But as others have stated, people tend to put their own flavor of edge on their own knife, so it's not a killer problem to resolve at all.

I just within the past day or so picked up a real nice Workhorse folder, of the three blades, just the clip point would be considered somewhat sharp, the other two were in need of some TLC, which I provided a generous amount and now all three blades are quite keen....:) in fact I was showing it off to one of the guys at work today and he felt the one edge and said 'this didn't arrive this sharp did it?' they seem to know me too well at work ;)
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Enough. This behavior is disappointing to say the least.

(Posted while Gary was getting in his say. Thankfully, it was more to the point.)
 
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