When you get dealt lemons. . . . . .

waynorth · Mar 31, 2009

Back when we were discussing some aspects of bone jigging

, I actually went out and bought this Remington Muskrat;

It is (was) a nice Muskrat, but one blade rubbed the liner, and slowed the closing snap. I could feel the spring was good, so having more bravado than brains I thought "I can crink this puppy!" So I went over to my trusty stiddy, laid a piece of leather over it, set the knife across the step, and with one little tap I snapped the blade!!

I quickly went out and stomped around the block before I broke something else, and convinced myself that all those years ago, Remington screwed up the heat treating!!:grumpy:
That's my story, and I'm sticking to it!!
What to do, what to do?
Stay tuned!

waynorth · Mar 31, 2009

Anyway, I came back home, and being an optimist (some days, anyways) I decided to make some good come of this. I have a knife or two with blade(s) removed, that are darned useful, so I decided to go that route;
My! Look at that thick backspring!!

Back to the workbench, I took a thin but tough old kitchen knife, and tapped it through the pins, and deconstructed it! Seen here, with some pin stock for re-assembly.
Boy, look at all those parts! You can see the catch bits, that fit the blades to the larger spring trough.

waynorth · Mar 31, 2009

Now my dilemma; what can I do to make this little project worthwhile. This knife was not used much, or someone might have broken a blade before me. What are typical knife problems anyway?? I mean you gotta sharpen a knife regularly, and then, you have to keep it reasonably clean. 'Course there's oiling the joints. And then there's handling it properly, so you don't cut yourself.
If I make a one blade, that blade will probably be fine, but with that backspring, it won't be any thinner than it was. hmmmm??
There must be some things I can do to make this a trouble free knife??
Maybe if I'm real inventive, I can make a name for myself, sorta like George Schrade; even collect royalties!!:thumbup:
I'll be back soon - - -I got something to work on!!

kc custom · Apr 1, 2009

Charlie, if you can refrain from using hammers making a new blade might be an option, theres probably more money to be made becoming a forger than someone like Schrade anyway.
Ken

kidwholaughs · Apr 1, 2009

WOW, that is a heck of a heat treatment. Did they just forget to temper. Or is there something that caused all the martinite to form?
Charlie,
You could send that knife to me and I will refund you the original purchase price of that knife from back in the day.

God Bless

waynorth · Apr 1, 2009

I'm glad there's a few people out there still awake and watching! It must be after midnight for some of you!!
I've been gnawing on the problems, and I think I am close to solving them. I won't be able to sleep until I do anyways . . . . .don't touch that dial!!

NirreBosse · Apr 1, 2009

Interesting reading Id say. Seems it happened to a man who has the skills to cope with a problem of this sort. Im waiting on the solution.

Bosse

d.parker · Apr 1, 2009

waynorth said:
I'm glad there's a few people out there still awake and watching! It must be after midnight for some of you!!
I've been gnawing on the problems, and I think I am close to solving them. I won't be able to sleep until I do anyways . . . . .don't touch that dial!!

Charlie, Take that blade and have it Tig welded using another old Remington Blade for filler. File the weld down, straighten the blade, flatten the back spring on a flat surface with 220 grit paper so it is straight. Make sure both tangs are flat and see if pivot holes are square with tangs, after all of this is done reassemble blades with pivot pins, insert back spring clamp down insert center pin and see if all is working properly if so peen and spin pins.

Then say man look at my new carry knife....

PS If you want a one bladed knife you will have to make a new back spring... If not find another blade to your liking and make fit...

ken erickson · Apr 1, 2009

Charlie,

Maybe there is another solution you have not thought of.
Send me a email in the morning if you have a chance.

SHEBOP · Apr 1, 2009

Gots my popcorn, Charlie! This is getting good! When it's all said & done, you're gonna have a fine knife & a KEWL KNIFE STORY to boot!

waynorth · Apr 1, 2009

Good morning All!!
I fell asleep after all, but I am happy to say;
I Had a Dream!

Now promise you won't tell any knife making companies, but I have solved all the problems I mentioned in post three!! I quote;
"Now my dilemma; what can I do to make this little project worthwhile. This knife was not used much, or someone might have broken a blade before me. What are typical knife problems anyway?? I mean you gotta sharpen a knife regularly, and then, you have to keep it reasonably clean. 'Course there's oiling the joints. And then there's handling it properly, so you don't cut yourself.
If I make a one blade, that blade will probably be fine, but with that backspring, it won't be any thinner than it was. hmmmm??
There must be some things I can do to make this a trouble free knife??
Maybe if I'm real inventive, I can make a name for myself, sorta like George Schrade; even collect royalties!!

So you won't have to sharpen this knife!! Or oil the joints!, And only the terminally stupid will cut themselves!! And you won't - and this is important - you won't get any lint in it! And it fits neatly in the pocket, hardly making a bulge!!
I'm so excited - please tell me what you think it's worth!

Drum roll please!

Behold!!

The no-bladed pocket knife!!
Now be honest! Tell me what you think!!

happy april first!

VCM3 · Apr 1, 2009

Nice & certainly interesting & the thread,as well,too.But if I were U,I'd e-mail Ken ,take him up on an offer,I see a lightbulb lit there

& go that route,with that knife.
-Vince

crbauhs · Apr 1, 2009

hahaha that is the sweetest new knife ive ever seen. where can i get one and how much?!?! maybe turn the broken blade into a sheepsfoot or something? thats what i woulda done.

6.0stroker · Apr 1, 2009

VCM3 said:
Nice & certainly interesting & the thread,as well,too.But if I were U,I'd e-mail Ken ,take him up on an offer,I see a lightbulb lit there & go that route,with that knife.
-Vince

:thumbup:There ya go Charlie!!!

Now dagnabit QUIT breakin them spensive old nifes

!!!

Speas · Apr 1, 2009

Isn't that one of those very fine zero degree blades that will slice through anything? You could call it the emperor's blade and sell it for $$$$.

waynorth · Apr 1, 2009

Speas said:
Isn't that one of those very fine zero degree blades that will slice through anything? You could call it the emperor's blade and sell it for $$$$.

Ah!! The Emperor's Blade! Perfect. Thank you - my wealth is assured!!

neeman · Apr 1, 2009

A perfect solution for April 1st

Spring is in the air, so it can't be in a knife.

Sauconian · Apr 1, 2009

kc custom said:
theres probably more money to be made becoming a forger than someone like Schrade anyway.
Ken

There 'ya go Charlie ! You're not the only one here with a sense of humor.

Fran

RandallFlagg · Apr 1, 2009

I'd like to be able to refurbish some older knives to give them new legs as quality carry pieces. Are there book sources to learn how to disassemble slippies or is it just know-how you picked up on your own?

Thanks

Sauconian · Apr 1, 2009

RandallFlagg said:
I'd like to be able to refurbish some older knives to give them new legs as quality carry pieces. Are there book sources to learn how to disassemble slippies or is it just know-how you picked up on your own?

Thanks

Disassembling slippies is easy Randall !

'Ya just need a big hammer like Charlie has.

A good book and lots of practice might help putting them back together.

Fran