When your buddy thinks his Frost Cutlery is the most amazing knife ever...

Heartland_edc

Heartland_edc

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I live in Kansas, and just about EVERYONE carries a folding knife. Most common are your Wal Mart Gerbers and CRKTs, which are perfectly fine for what they'll be used for. Every now and then I run into someone who carries a Benchmade or Spyderco, but never anything more expensive than that. I tend to avoid talking about knives with anyone who isnt a "knife person," because most people can't fathom how any knife could possibly be worth more than $100. Which I can understand if they don't know what goes into them. I have a good buddy who doesn't know anything about knives, but he knows I love them. He told me he wanted to show me his "favorite knife", and brought it with him to work today. Later, I tried to find the exact knife on google. Looks just like this but with a black or dark green scale.



Initially, I had an overwhelming urge to point out everything that was wrong with his knife. I wanted to explain to him in great detail why the design was flat out silly, and that Frost is... well... you guys know where I'm going with this. But I didn't. He was so excited to show it to me, and he clearly loved the thing. I realized my overly critical opinion wouldn't accomplish anything, and might even take away his love for it. On top of that, it ultimately would have been an excuse to show off the knife in my pocket, and to go on and on about its "vast superiority." Which, again, would have been pointless and stupid. I turned his knife over in my hand and pretended to be intrigued by it. Ended up telling him it was "a pretty cool knife" and then went about my day. He's my friend, and thats probably the only reason I didn't go off on a rant. I spend so much time here on the forums in my little "superior knife world" that I forget most people don't view knives the way I do. It was a humbling experience, and I'm honestly glad I kept my mouth shut this time. I have definitely made the mistake of deeming myself a "knife elitist" in other conversations, and the only things I got in return were confused and insulted expressions. Might have to start toning down my knife pride. Has anyone else been in this situation?
 
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There are several people on this forum that will tell you that is his "sebenza"( the moral, and ethical self appointed forum policeman) I know what you are talking about though, good post. Happy easter
 
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Constantly. I've infected a few people around me with the knife bug, and I too struggle with how to help them realize their knives aren't that great without being an elitist d***hole. I try to stay with "that's a cool looking knife for opening packages, but be careful with hard use. That style is inherently fragile..." Then I steer them towards better brands.

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Good read Heartland! I have definitely " been there and done that". Everyone wants to think that they have the " biggest, badest and best". Guess that's just human nature. You did the noble thing.

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Yea everyone i work with share the views like your buddy. I do exactly the same thing you did. Tell them its a pretty cool knife and go on but occasionally (every blue moon or so) you run into a fellow knife knut.
 
Holy$#!t that thing is horrific!! It is so funny when people think their "fantasy" blades and tacticool blades are the end all be all of badassedness blades. But, do they cut or chop? Or serve any function whatsoever?
But you gotta just say, "oh yeah, that is a cool knife" to them, like you said above.
 
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Goose 7279 said:
Yea everyone i work with share the views like your buddy. I do exactly the same thing you did. Tell them its a pretty cool knife and go on but occasionally (every blue moon or so) you run into a fellow knife knut.
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Isnt that a good feeling when you find another knife nut? I get so excited. I have to fight the urge to hug them. Its like that scene in Step Brothers when they discover they have everything in common, and then decide to "go do karate in the garage."
 
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Reminds me of the toy "idiot pistol" that had the barrel pointed back at the user. I too dont really talk to non knife people about knives and many times they get irritated as they think im being a snob. To which i explain that i am a knife snob. And since neither of us are gonna change each others opinion its just a conversation that leads to resentment. So id rather not.
 
My brother is kind of a different story. He knows that his tac - force, m-tech , and frost cutlery knives aren't as good as my knives ( affordable knives, but with max quality and value for the money ) but he just doesn't care. He says he doesn't want to mess up a good knife, so he continues to replace his 10$ flea market specials every other month. I tell him that he could at the very least spend 20$ on a buck bantam and not have to buy another knife for years if he doesn't loose it, but I guess he just doesn't want to use a knife with any form of quality.
 
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It has sufficient jimping so that one is okay by me. :D
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Yeah, but you'd think they could've added a few more speed holes. That's only high speed, medium drag as it is.

~Chip
 
I learned along time ago to never disparage another persons knife or poor choice thereof, I like my taste for knives and that is all that matters.
Sometimes when a person says you should see this knife I just absorb the pain and move along!!
 
Something I want to point out is that when all I had were frost cutlery...ect knives( still have a bunch in my collection ) I was much happier as it was a simpler time so to speak. There were so many cool knives to be had for 5$, and I couldn't be happier with them because they looked cool and got the job done. Now I know what quality is and what I like, so 90% of modern folders I see weather quality or not are just bleh and meh. The knife world was my oyster, but now I hate most of what I see and there's not much to discover.
 
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Something I want to point out is that when all I had were frost cutlery...ect knives( still have a bunch in my collection ) I was much happier as it was a simpler time so to speak. There were so many cool knives to be had for 5$, and I couldn't be happier with them because they looked cool and got the job done. Now I know what quality is and what I like, so 90% of modern folders I see weather quality or not are just bleh and meh. The knife world was my oyster, but now I hate most of what I see and there's not much to discover.
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So true. Experience makes us all hypercritical.
 
Heartland_edc said:
So true. Experience makes us all hypercritical.
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While I still don't really care about blade steel because I have simple needs, I never used to care about blade play, I thought tanto's were cool, thought assisted openers were cool, and thought the all black tactical thing was cool. Now all that stuff just makes me cringe.
Something funny that I remembered is that when I was a kid I actually wanted the knife pictured, I was going to buy one until a relative gave me a vintage western f48a fixed blade and I started to learn about knives when researching this old fixed blade, I never bought THE GAMBLER1 and never looked at my frost cutlery knives the same after that.
 
Your friend who doesn't know much about knives wanted to show you what he considers one of his favorites, because he knows how much you do love them. He probably already realizes you know more then him and that whatever are his favorites isn't saying much.

Perhaps, he was open to deferring to your opinion and your view at whatever level that is. Maybe he is interested in knife world and wants to know more. Maybe, the Frost was just a means to strike the convo.

Give your friend who doesn't know much about knives a $5 Opinel #6. Sharing is caring.
 
You did good, Heartland. It is rarely advisable to disparage someone else's possessions, experiences or beliefs. He's proud of his knife. That's what counts. Fact is, it probably opens the mail, peels an orange, or scrapes a sticker as well as the $$$ piece of wonder steel you or I have in our pockets.

A couple of years ago, at a trade show, a young woman I know asked me to look at some knives she was considering for camping and carry. They were mostly Smith and Wessons, and a few other tacticool models, made you know where. I suggested we walk around the corner to another booth that was selling US made Kershaws. Before long, she had 5 of them out on the counter, opening, closing, holding, gripping them. Before long, she had picked out the perfect one. Cost just about the same as the S&W. A few weeks ago I stopped by to see her at work. She had to open a box, and that Kershaw was out in a flash. Still her perfect knife. I'm glad I got to her BEFORE she made the purchase.

When I was a kid, about 11 or so, my mom overheard me disparage (with no justification) a vacation one of my friends had just returned from. I got a (justified) verbal a$$ chewing that i still remember.
 
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