Maybe he was looking for the right word and using a shotgun approach, I don't know.
Over the years, my tact has improved, and my restraint has certainly improved, to the point that I get regular "what happened to the OLD STeven?" e-mails.
What exactly are you saying, Ken?
Best Regards,
STeven Garsson
I am saying that the OP made some very unwarranted insinuations using words like honesty, truthfulness, and integrity. If he was "shotgunning" then he had Michael in his sights. I do not believe it was all some kind of linguistic accident and if by some chance it really was, he is certainly free to apologize any time. {
Crickets}
As for your tact and restraint . . . IMO, yes they have improved. But there is a long history I think you would fairly have to concede.
Regardless, I will retract my YMMV remark in view of your improved tact and restraint.
Given that . . . in view of your improved tact and restraint . . . do you think that tossing around the kind of words the OP did in any language would be consistent with such tact and restraint? How about carelessly using such words in a language which you must therefore barely speak if at all if you thought they meant something completely different, and after being advised by more than one native speaker of the meaning of such words which you did not understand
rolleyes
and still not apologizing for it? Not very tactful or restrained, IMO.
I agee with Vecio. It may be a standard business practice to not tell the full history of a knife and to lie by omission, but that does not make it ethical. A puveyor should protect the buyer as well as the consignee. People on this forum say the "Knife world" is a place of higher character...
Just because engraving was done after Loveless death as an homage (or sales trick) should not constrain Knifepuveyor from stating it...why not unless to trick the buyer? Think of it in terms of the golden rule, would you not want the full history of a knife disclosed to you? At a midwest arms collector show, the amatuer weekend dealer told me the Sunfish forge knife I was buying was old, unique, bought at auction and sent to Hanson for a refurb. Should not an online purveyor of a 29k knife do the same? The back story on the Sunfish forge knife did not stop me from buying it.
Have you bought and sold a lot of engraved knives? If so, maybe you can help me out here.
There are literally hundreds of engraved knives offered for sale at purveyors' sites.
How many of those do you think provide detailed timelines and explanations of their engraving process, who commissioned the engraving, when it was done, etc., etc., etc. Maybe you can point me to some because I don't see it. I see a TON of engraved Joe Kious knives, without anyone stating who commissioned the engraving - Joe, a subsequent buyer, the purveyor, or even the engraver buying the knife himself with the intent of engraving it. BTW, I have NO idea either why I should care about any of that anyway (which might explain why no one posts that information).
IMO, that is just not the standard of the industry with regard to the sale of engraved knives. But again, I welcome any objective evidence you can provide to the contrary.
I don't see what your point is. A collector purchases a very desirable knife and has it engraved by one of the best living engravers- and then decides to sell it.
Michaels description of the knife-engraving is clear and to the point.
A homage to Bob Loveless? - perhaps
A sales trick?- that's ludicrous
As far as I know no knife ever left the Loveless Shop engraved and therefore by your definition any Loveless knife that has been engraved must of been engraved as a "sales trick."
My guess is the knife was engraved as a personal decision and the collector has decided to sell it. The hope when engraving a knife is that the engraving WILL enhance the knife and therefore make it more valuable. To some collectors any engraving will detract from the value-appearance of a knife.
There is a very well known and highly skilled knife maker whose knives are often canvasses for engraving by some the world's finest engravers. This maker does not like engraving on knives.
Does this mean that it would be contrary to the maker's wish to engrave one of his- or her knives and by doing so one would "devalue" the knife?
I have a an expensive knife that was delivered to me two years ago . It will be a four year wait to have the knife engraved by one of the "better known" engravers. Would I be less than honest or of little or no character if at some point in time I decided to sell the knife and didn't disclose that there was a four wait in engraving the knife?
Best,
Paul
Nice to see you posting here my friend. Good points, all. And Happy 39th Birthday!
As long as the same engraver did the work who cares about the timeline
No one misrepresented anything
I guess I should have gotten all my tattoos at once
I've had many things custom made for me and I've had many guns that have been done is stages
I just do not see the issue
I echo Roger . . .
^^^ Exactly.
