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Recommendation? Where to buy San Mia billets?

Discussion in 'Shop Talk - BladeSmith Questions and Answers' started by Coy Ranch, Apr 17, 2018.

  1. Coy Ranch

    Coy Ranch

    5
    Aug 23, 2017
    Anyone cranking out any billets for sale? I would really like to work some San Mia.
     
  2. Tom Lewis

    Tom Lewis

    Feb 24, 2000
    The New Jersey Steel Baron sells what he calls double clad steel. It has a core of 52100 and the two outsides are 410 ss. It is pricy.
     
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  3. PirateSeulb

    PirateSeulb Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 6, 2017
    Isn't San Mai just CS trademark name for laminated/clad steels and Chinese or Japanese word that translates to the same?
     
  4. JTknives

    JTknives ABS Apprentice Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Jun 11, 2006
    It was my understanding that the CS trademark was San Mia III. It had to have the 3 III after it to be protected.
     
  5. Stacy E. Apelt - Bladesmith

    Stacy E. Apelt - Bladesmith ilmarinen - MODERATOR Moderator Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Aug 20, 2004
    I get a lot of it from Dictum and some from Workshop Heaven.
     
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  6. DAMNENG

    DAMNENG

    510
    Dec 17, 2005
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  7. jdm61

    jdm61 itinerant metal pounder Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Aug 12, 2005
    Stacy do you buy from Workshop Heaven because of availability or low shipping price? I ask because when I looked, their prices seemed a lot higher than Dictum even accounting for currency difference.
     
  8. Stacy E. Apelt - Bladesmith

    Stacy E. Apelt - Bladesmith ilmarinen - MODERATOR Moderator Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Aug 20, 2004
    They occasionally had something that Dictum didn't have available. Since Dictum started carrying a larger selection and longer pieces, I buy large orders from them about once a year. I haven't ordered from WSH in a couple years.

    There are several ebay sellers who buy in bulk from both WSH and Dictum and resell at a pretty good price when you figure the shipping cost in.
     
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  9. Coy Ranch

    Coy Ranch

    5
    Aug 23, 2017
    Thanks to everyone who contributed. Very helpful.
     
  10. jdm61

    jdm61 itinerant metal pounder Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Aug 12, 2005
    I did notice that if you play around with the quantities on the Dictum site, you can figure out where it jumps up to the next higher shipping cost. You may be able to get 9 pieces shipped for say $60, but 10 will cost you $80 or so. The percentage of the cost associated with shipping goes down fairly quickly as the order gets bigger if you watch out for that.
     
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  11. Willie71

    Willie71 Warren J. Krywko. Part Time Knifemaker Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Feb 23, 2013
    Dictum is quite reasonable for what they are selling. I would recommend them to anyone who isn’t set up to forge weld their own.
     
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  12. Stacy E. Apelt - Bladesmith

    Stacy E. Apelt - Bladesmith ilmarinen - MODERATOR Moderator Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Aug 20, 2004
    In agree. Dictum sells first quality Hitachi steels and laminates. I use a lot of their suminagashi and warikomi. It allows me to make an affordable tanto or wakizashi that is of good quality and cutting ability.
     
  13. ChristoDart

    ChristoDart

    582
    Jun 29, 2011
    Anyone have examples of knives where they used New Jersey Steel Baron's??
     

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