Where To Go For Backpacking

Vivi

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I live in Northeastern Ohio and I can't seem to find a whole lot. I've been going to some woods over near the airport for a few hours at a time, but some sheriff told us to stay out of there from now on. I've just been using Google Earth to look for large patches of woods. I checked a National Park site and saw something that looked promising...

http://www.nps.gov/cuva/index.htm

Anyone been to it?
 
According to that website, no camping is allowed in that monument.

For ohio backpacking opportunities, I'd start looking here. But just from a casual poking around there, it doesn't look like there's a lot of true backpacking opportunities in that state. You might have to travel a bit to find that.
 
Haven't been there, but I do some Camping and hiking in WV.

If you don't mind the drive you might want to consider heading down to the Monongahela National forest for a day or 2 - Great for Hiking, camping, fishing, whatever -
 
Thanks for the tips, checking out all those links.

West virginia would be perfect for me. I'd love to rent out a cabin up there for a season. I'm gonna look into that after I save up some funds from my new job.

For now though I'd just like a place where I could hike around, make fires out in the open, cook, pitch a tent, possibly hunt & fish etc.

I'd like even more to just find my own patch of woods to do whatever I please in, no park or trails or anything. Just normal, dense forest. Go in there, get some wood, build a little shelter and stay out there for a week or so at a time.

Basically my ideal place would be somewhere I could do something along the lines of the book "Walden." Go somewhere, build my own shelter and station myself there for a while. I don't want some place with specific regulations on everything, I just want untamed, wild forest for me to go play in. Where I could make a litle hut, keep fires at night, find my own food everyday and so on. That sounds like some amazing fun, making my own temporary dwelling and reading by the fire every night under the stars.
 
Vivi said:
Basically my ideal place would be somewhere I could do something along the lines of the book "Walden." Go somewhere, build my own shelter and station myself there for a while. I don't want some place with specific regulations on everything, I just want untamed, wild forest for me to go play in. Where I could make a litle hut, keep fires at night, find my own food everyday and so on. That sounds like some amazing fun, making my own temporary dwelling and reading by the fire every night under the stars.

Unfortunately, in America today nobody lives in isolation. Even if you bought yourself a little patch of woods, there's always a nosy neighbor who is willing to mind your business for you. It can be tough to find solitude, especially if you live in the more heavily populated corridors.

If a "walden" or true wilderness experience is what you want, it's too bad you don't live out west. I believe that the most rugged and unregulated experience you can find in the lower 48 are BLM lands. Basically, go west of the Mississippi. Take all the towns, cities, and farms and set them aside. Throw all the county, state, and national parks into the same pile. Kick in the odd federal monument or two. Throw in the national forests (which are quite large). What's left over are the BLM lands. They manage 261 million surface acres in 12 western states.

The rules for land usage in the BLM lands vary from location to location, but I've found that if you follow the simple rule, "Don't be an asshole" you get left alone. Basically, you have to avoid polluting the place and burning it down. If bringing guns in, make sure they're registered to you. Don't carry a gun without a hunting license in hunting season. Don't kill things out of season. Don't fish without a license. Pack your garbage out. And so on and so forth.

What you won't find in the BLM lands are a lot of pre-designated camping grounds and noise rules. If someone's making too much noise, just pick yourself up and move a few miles away.

Of course, you also won't find a lot of law enforcement out there waiting to take care of you. Make sure you know what you're getting into before you go chill in a particular area. Get good maps, ask around locally about conditions in the lands, and be aware that there are other people out there looking for a wilderness experience that may not be the same as yours. It sucks to go hiking and run into a lot of 4-wheelers tearing the trails up, but there you have it. (Actually, some areas may restrict certain usages. I don't think that hiking and camping is ever restricted, but you should always check into local rules before heading out).

Also, remember that during the summer months, most of the west is put on a fire lockdown. No open campfires allowed, period. The entire west turns into one giant tinder pile come June or July or thereabouts. So if you want to enjoy fish over an open campfire, you might want to head down into Appalachian trail country, or up into the upper midwest or someplace like that.

Note that the BLM lands really are what's left over. Basically, it's what no one else wanted to use. There's cattle being run on some of this, and some mining and so forth, but the reality of it is the BLM lands may not be the "prettiest" experience you can hope for. If you want something a little more regulated but also a little more scenic, look for national forests. After that comes national parks, then state parks, then national monuments, then county parks.

But it's all good, depending on what you want to do. For example, I'll be spending my outdoors time this year in mostly county parks, with an occaisonal national monument and state park thrown in. Why? Well, because they're close, cheap, and reasonably easy for novices to handle. My kids are 5 and 7 this year, and they have to start somewhere. :)

Sorry for rambling. I think it's been too long since I've gotten away from town....
 
It's alright, it was informative.

It seems like in West Virginia there is still a lot of unpopulated areas. Think what I'm looking for might be found down there? We've driven there to visit family many times and it seems like a good location.
 
I can highly reccomend Cranberry Wilderness near Richwood WV

Dolly Sods Wilderness and North Fork Mt. near Harmon WV

I go there all the time.

Here are some pics.

Here's some pics from North Fork Mt Trail it is 24 miles long and runs along North Fork Mt. Only catch is you must carry all your water. However there is a dead end road on top at 10 miles you can stash water there to carry you thru to the end. The first pic is the trail leading up to chimney top and the second pic is on top of chimney top.

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Here's is a pic of my wife looking back off the back of the Lions Head Cliffs in the Dolly Sods Wilderness.
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Here is the actual Lions Head

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Here is about six to ten miles south on the same hike. This is the Canyon Rim trail. The mountain behind is North Fork. I'm setting on that rock promontory holding my hands out.

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Here's a different hike but same trail me, standing on the "trail", actually just a series of cairns that lead you diagonally thru this boulder field.

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Early morning camp first hike my wife having trouble getting awake;)

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For good info about hiking these areas check out my pal Mike's page and some of these others:

www.midatlantichikes.com Maps pics, trail narratives GPS date

www.trailpixie.net

www.wvhighlands.org
 
beutiful pics hallow dweller ! vivi i suggest you relocate to harmon imediatly, its truly awesome looking there. or you could move to tennessee where its covered in parks .
 
gutsy said:
beutiful pics hallow dweller ! vivi i suggest you relocate to harmon imediatly, its truly awesome looking there. or you could move to tennessee where its covered in parks .

There's some great places to pack in the Smokies I hear! If I ever explore all that's here I may check it out.

Yeah Harman is awesome but my house isn't bad either. This is looking out my side door onto my hollow and hayfields.

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Here's my wife cracking off a few rounds in the side yard.

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Stating your "specifications," as you did, helps.

Here is one direction you might go. There are large tracts of National Forest in western PA where I have backpacked for a weekind and never seen anyone not in my group -- and that was on established trails. Off the trails would be even more private. You might buy A Hiker's Guide to the Allegheny National Forest, Sierra Club, P.O. Box8241, Pittsburgh, PA 15217. It gives useful topo maps and detailed trail directions.

Other than that, one most often heads into SE Ohio to find remote forest.
 
hallow dweller just tell me when and i can show you some awesome trails in the smokies. mt. leconte for example [brutal little trail called allum cave ] . lots of friggin bears too. seriously , when youre ready to come down here give me a holler and maybe we'll get a trip together . im a white water raft guide on the ocoee river during the summer [1996 olymics] so maybe you could check that out too seeing as how its in the same neck of the woods.
 
Snow said:
Wow offtopic but that Lion's Head pic is great! What a cool rock!


It really is. It is about a six mile hike from the nearest road to get to . The way to it is somewhat hard to find. The first time we went we couldn't find the way up.

Last time we found a way on back from the Cliff face. It brings you up into this really nice open red pine stand with a great campsite, and kind of a cool little field beside. There's no water up there but a little less than a mile from the campsite is Big Stonecoal run with lots of water and a nice waterfall. I have always wanted to camp up there and see the sunset and sunrise, but always when I have been there we have needed to go about another 2 miles before we camped in order to make it out of the woods on time on our last day.

One of these trips I am going to go there, pack a daypack in also, set up a base camp there explore that whole mountain top and do some day hiking loops too. There are so many cool places to go in that area I have a tendency to go from one to the other rather than bushwhack a lot.

Oh yea, it's Wilderness so you're really not supposed to have anything like this, but I noticed on the tip of the Lions Head is a little plaque glued there with somebodies name and birth and death date. I guess they tossed their ashes off the cliff.
 
Very lovely pictures indeed. I'd love going somewhere like that, or even somewhere far less scenic if it has a high degree of freedom.

I'm mainly interested in two things. Freedom / isoloation from the world, and seeing how well I can learn to survive off the land alone.

My first few trips I'll be taking it slow. Going only a few days, bringing tons of stuff with me so no unexpected things will hinder my exploration (Food, tools etc). But as I get the hang of it I want to have on me little else than a utility knife, the clothes on my back and maybe a canteen.

It's prettymuch just an experiment of mine at this point, but seeing how this spring / summer and fall plays out, I'm seriously thinking about just finding a remote cabin somewhere to buy and hunting, having my own garden etc and living in a somewhat isolated environment. During all this I plan to keep working on all my computer tech skills and getting more certifications. I'm tryingt o think of things I can train in where I could just work for a while and save up some money easily, then go back out into isolation and everything. I really don't like living in cities and never truely have. West Virginia would be a good compromise in my eyes....people are friendly and in many areas there are miles between houses, but still within a short drive from bookstores, hospitals and other things I might need to visit.

Now, one thing I'm havign trouble figuring out, is where I'd fit my love of skateboarding into all of this :)
 
check out cooks forest or the allegheny national forest in pa. not that far from you if you are in ne ohio. large tracts of land and not many people.

alex
 
Hey hollowdweller, where about do you live in WV. My family owns property in WV around the Sinks of Gandy. That pic above really reminds me of Dry Fork raod near Whitmer. Well be headed up in April, and if you ask anyone about the truck with the long tipi poles driving through Harmon or Senca Rocks or Dry Fork Road near Whitmer, yea thats us. Thats always been one of my favorite places to go backpacking in Dolly Sods or Spruce knob area.
 
Vivi,

Not sure what you mean by high degree of freedom. With the wilderness you can't litter but that's about it. I usually see a few other hikers at Dolly Sods if you stay on trail but in Dolly Sods South I have hiked 3 or 4 days and seen nobody but 1 Bear Hunter. You pretty much camp where you want or where you can find a place not Rocky enough.

Ghost,

I have never been thru the Sinks but the WV Wilderness Coalition is sponsoring a free hike thru it. (for those that don't know Gandy Creek goes into the hillside at the Sinks and then comes out on the other side nearly a mile later) on July 30 and some friends and I are going to go, and either camp in Laurel Fork Wilderness, where I have never gone before or at the Laurel Fork Campground. Depends on time factors. Plan to stay Fri night, and Sat night. The hike is on Sat and supposedly will explore Stele cave too? Read about it here:

www.wvhighlands.org

I live about 4 hours and 15 minutes from Dolly Sods in Cabell Co. I have 85 acres of our own and then about 300 or more adjoining I can hike in so theoretically I could camp here if I wanted but the Wilderness has more cool cliffs and waterfalls.

Speaking of Spruce Knob/Seneca Creek Back Country last years was our first trip there even though we have been backpacking over 20 years! We went about 5 miles in and camped for 2 days at the beautiful Seneca Creek Falls, on Sat we did a 6 mile loop as a day hike up High Meadows Trail, the flowers and berries were awesome. Then Sunday we hiked out on Seneca Creek Trail which is beautiful. I don't think I have ever seen as many trout! I'll definately be going back there this summer.

How do you like that Teepee? How hard is it to set up? I have always wanted one here, a big one for parties and to just leave it set up all summer but I have always wondered how hard are they to set up. I have a budddy that makes Yurts and they are more expen$ive but easy to set up.

I'll try to dig some of my Seneca Creek Pix out and post them if I can find them!:thumbup:
 
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