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Where's Knife forums. com??
- Thread starter bcurran
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They're still at www.knifeforums.com .
Apparently there was some down time recently. As of now (23:05, California time), it's up.
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- JKM
www.chaicutlery.com
Apparently there was some down time recently. As of now (23:05, California time), it's up.
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- JKM
www.chaicutlery.com
They claim to be upgrading there software and that they are on a new server which is the fastest server for forums. Well not according to my computer. BFC is pinging in on my computer in 78MS and KFC is 184MS. So looks like BFC wins the speed issue. Anyone else ping them yet?
If you do not know how to do it here is how.
Go to you start button and then go up to run. Then in the box that comes up type the word "command" (without the quotes of course). A black MSDOS box will up up in the directory your in. Just type the following command, after the prompt, no matter what directory your in.
ping www.knifeforums.com
It will ping a site 4 times and tell you the answer in miliseconds in the time column. Then do the same thing with BFC and compare the two. A friend of mine is here and taught me this cool trick. He says it is a good indicator of how fast a site is, at least in response time.
Gone diving! See yall next Monday. Any good knife shops in the Florida keys?
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Dave
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If you do not know how to do it here is how.
Go to you start button and then go up to run. Then in the box that comes up type the word "command" (without the quotes of course). A black MSDOS box will up up in the directory your in. Just type the following command, after the prompt, no matter what directory your in.
ping www.knifeforums.com
It will ping a site 4 times and tell you the answer in miliseconds in the time column. Then do the same thing with BFC and compare the two. A friend of mine is here and taught me this cool trick. He says it is a good indicator of how fast a site is, at least in response time.
Gone diving! See yall next Monday. Any good knife shops in the Florida keys?
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Dave
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I do not understand how the internet works or what those numbers mean but I
do understand what I can see and the other site is VERY slow. Can someone
explain what all this stuff like what a T3 connection and dedicated pipes
and stuff means?
I got # 217 on the first try, for Knifeforums.com and I got #174 for Bladeforums.com. I wish to thank David for the good directions. Untill two months ago I did not us a computer at all. But I try to learn.
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Danny Ridenhour
1-888-KnivesRUS
www.888knivesrus.com
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do understand what I can see and the other site is VERY slow. Can someone
explain what all this stuff like what a T3 connection and dedicated pipes
and stuff means?
I got # 217 on the first try, for Knifeforums.com and I got #174 for Bladeforums.com. I wish to thank David for the good directions. Untill two months ago I did not us a computer at all. But I try to learn.
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Danny Ridenhour
1-888-KnivesRUS
www.888knivesrus.com
Check out our new website!
ping measures the time it takes to send a small packet of information from your computer to the destination computer and back again. It really measures the internet transmission time more than it measures the remote server speed, since the remote server doesn't do anything other than bounce the packet back to you. An even more interesting command of this nature is "traceroute", which shows the full path followed by packets as they travel through the internet and the times along the way.
If you want to get a more meaningful measure of server speed, try performing some article searches (though the time that takes will depend on the number of articles to search, and thus penalizes the more popular server) or just browse the message boards and see which one makes you wait the longest when you change groups.
In the end, all that matters is for the server to be fast enough for the amount of use it gets.
A "T3" is a very high-speed internet connection. A "dedicated pipe" presumably means they aren't sharing their primary Internet connections with anyone else.
-Brett
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If you want to get a more meaningful measure of server speed, try performing some article searches (though the time that takes will depend on the number of articles to search, and thus penalizes the more popular server) or just browse the message boards and see which one makes you wait the longest when you change groups.
In the end, all that matters is for the server to be fast enough for the amount of use it gets.
A "T3" is a very high-speed internet connection. A "dedicated pipe" presumably means they aren't sharing their primary Internet connections with anyone else.
-Brett
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brett@rahul.net
www.rahul.net/brett
Here's what a T3 is, in its easiest terms.
Most high-end modem users have 56k modems. 56k per second of data, tops. Phone lines have overhead (lost bytes) because they're used for data and voice communication...so that's why you see warnings on a modem box saying a 56k modem won't really get to 56k.
Dedicated lines are ones used for data only and, therefore, don't have the overhead bytes...so a 56k dedicated line will actually approach 56k speed (instead of 53k tops).
A T1 can get you 1.54meg of data per second. It's pretty fast and very good for small businesses.
A T3 can get you 45meg of data per second...and is really stinkin' expensive. This is about 28 or 29 T1s worth of bandwidth and is primarily for corporations that can afford this sorta stuff. VERY EXPENSIVE.
I hope this answers your questions. If you have any more, email me.
-Dan
Most high-end modem users have 56k modems. 56k per second of data, tops. Phone lines have overhead (lost bytes) because they're used for data and voice communication...so that's why you see warnings on a modem box saying a 56k modem won't really get to 56k.
Dedicated lines are ones used for data only and, therefore, don't have the overhead bytes...so a 56k dedicated line will actually approach 56k speed (instead of 53k tops).
A T1 can get you 1.54meg of data per second. It's pretty fast and very good for small businesses.
A T3 can get you 45meg of data per second...and is really stinkin' expensive. This is about 28 or 29 T1s worth of bandwidth and is primarily for corporations that can afford this sorta stuff. VERY EXPENSIVE.
I hope this answers your questions. If you have any more, email me.
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In the end though, your site is only as strong as it's weakest link. Without getting into specifics, there are quite a few reasons why one site can operate much faster or slower than another, similar site.
Personally, I could care less about whether we have a T1 line or a dedicated T3, or an OC-3, etc etc etc, as long as our stuff works. Having all the goodies only goes so far, and sooner or later you encounter the law of diminishing returns. The fact is, you have to have a good balance of all the elements if you want your site to be successful, and weaknesses in any particular areas can significantly hamper you, no matter how popular you are.
You can get whatever you want, but if it's not making a significant difference to your customers it doesn't really matter, no matter how you hype it.
Spark
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Personally, I could care less about whether we have a T1 line or a dedicated T3, or an OC-3, etc etc etc, as long as our stuff works. Having all the goodies only goes so far, and sooner or later you encounter the law of diminishing returns. The fact is, you have to have a good balance of all the elements if you want your site to be successful, and weaknesses in any particular areas can significantly hamper you, no matter how popular you are.
You can get whatever you want, but if it's not making a significant difference to your customers it doesn't really matter, no matter how you hype it.
Spark
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Kevin Jon Schlossberg
SysOp and Administrator for BladeForums.com
Insert witty quip here
Spark,
Exactly. If I have a T3 on a router at home and only a 56k dialin line to the rest of the world, I shouldn't expect T3 speeds.
You're only as fast as your slowest line in the path.
Bladeforums, f'rinstance, works.
Haven't had a problem so far with slowness or anything along those lines.
Exactly. If I have a T3 on a router at home and only a 56k dialin line to the rest of the world, I shouldn't expect T3 speeds.
Bladeforums, f'rinstance, works.
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Well all I know is this is the best site TO ME! I am not all that smart but I do know a good thing when I use it. And Bladeforums does it for me, fast, slow,????? If it works why try to fix it.
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Danny Ridenhour
1-888-KnivesRUS
www.888knivesrus.com
Check out our new website!
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Check out our new website!
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I've been hanging out on both forums, and this is the first time I've seen such silly sniping and childish stuff on either forum. I didn't realize Bladeforums had such a chip on its shoulder, and I'm more than a little disappointed at the remarks here. A friend of mine once said that "You know you're kicking their a**es when they get scared and start talking trash about you..."
Do you guys who are talking trash feel deep down that Knifeforums IS kicking Bladeforums a**es? Your behavior here seems to indicate it...
Sorry, but gotta call it as I see it...
Brian.
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Do you guys who are talking trash feel deep down that Knifeforums IS kicking Bladeforums a**es? Your behavior here seems to indicate it...
Sorry, but gotta call it as I see it...
Brian.
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"Our site is faster than their site!" is at least the sort of odious comparison that forum participants can test, if they feel like it. As long as nobody says, "You're ugly!" or words to that effect, speed comparisons are relatively harmless next to other unfriendly "stuff" I've seen in a couple of years on the knife nut net.
And I've found both forums down from time to time, and I've found myself muttering about delayed gratification in both places.
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- JKM
www.chaicutlery.com
And I've found both forums down from time to time, and I've found myself muttering about delayed gratification in both places.
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- JKM
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Brian, you need to note several things:
1. I'm the only person in this thread discussing the other site in any sort of official capacity, and all I've said is that it doesn't matter what you get, it's the big picture that counts. Compare that to the number of statements made by the moderators/ admins of other sites.
2. This thread seems to be in backlash of all of the hype that we've seen elsewhere. You'll notice that we aren't the ones hyping "dedicated T3" or "dedicated server" or and of a hundred other comments made. Yet, when someone questions the validity of the hype, we're the one's talking trash?
3. First it was total number of posts, then it was speed, now it's the quality of the forums. What's next in the trash talking / hype-o-rama? Everything I've seen here is pretty mild compared to what's consitently done elsewhere.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again: BladeForums.com is not in competition with any other site, our goal is to simply help educate the knife user, and it shows in the discussion here. We've got a good formula, good people, and we're doing everything we can to improve ourselves, constantly. Running scared? Not hardly.
All of the "trash talk" you've seen has been uniformly one way - aimed at us. Sorry, but I call it like I see it. So, I guess your statement does make sense after all.... it just doesn't apply to BladeForums.com
Spark
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Kevin Jon Schlossberg
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1. I'm the only person in this thread discussing the other site in any sort of official capacity, and all I've said is that it doesn't matter what you get, it's the big picture that counts. Compare that to the number of statements made by the moderators/ admins of other sites.
2. This thread seems to be in backlash of all of the hype that we've seen elsewhere. You'll notice that we aren't the ones hyping "dedicated T3" or "dedicated server" or and of a hundred other comments made. Yet, when someone questions the validity of the hype, we're the one's talking trash?
3. First it was total number of posts, then it was speed, now it's the quality of the forums. What's next in the trash talking / hype-o-rama? Everything I've seen here is pretty mild compared to what's consitently done elsewhere.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again: BladeForums.com is not in competition with any other site, our goal is to simply help educate the knife user, and it shows in the discussion here. We've got a good formula, good people, and we're doing everything we can to improve ourselves, constantly. Running scared? Not hardly.
All of the "trash talk" you've seen has been uniformly one way - aimed at us. Sorry, but I call it like I see it. So, I guess your statement does make sense after all.... it just doesn't apply to BladeForums.com
Spark
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Kevin Jon Schlossberg
SysOp and Administrator for BladeForums.com
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