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Yes Phil I do have several of the scrim issues of the prisons as well as the dies used to make them I also have several of the non scrim ones. I even have some proto types numbered 000 I pulled some out however at this point some stuff is at the exhibit and I just grabbed what was handy. Note the two sheath knives one is a Schrade PH-1 and the other is a Canal street cut which was commissioned after the closing. Note the etch. Phil once again do you need the little toothpick and tweezers that goes in the back of the 97 OT I thought a while back you were looking for them? Please advise in an email or whatever. I pulled duty at many of the institutions that issued these knives.
Please excuse my being politically incorrect in my remarks about various people with alternate life styles such as faggots ect I tend to forget sometimes that freedom of speech is limited by what is in vogue. To each his own, it is just that values and language change it used to be that being gay ment being happy and the term throw another faggot on the fire ment to put a log in the fireplace.
Regarding the gaffer I have related this story a while ago but perhapes it is worth repeating. This knife came about when Albert Baer was Tarpon fishing with Ted William in Florida. They were old friends and knew each other for many years through both of there affialiations with SEARS. Williams of course was the represenative for the Sears sporting goods line. While fishing together one day, Williams gaffed a tarpon with a gaffer knife ( these were sold by various companies I have included a few in the attached pics ). This lead to a conversation about why Schrade ( or Ulster ) did not produce such a knife. One of the problems was having a third backspring on the knife however Baer was already producing such a fishing knife ( with a third backspring ). Only the spring sported a fold up beer can opener which originally was a model produced by imperial. Upon return from the trip Baer called a friend of mine into his office explained what he wanted and told him to make it. It was interesting to hear from the fellow who actually designed and built the proto type just how he did it the spring he used ( and reshaped for the original gaff hook ect. ). These were marketed by sears with an Ulster tang and a JC Higgins etch. A few were also made with Schrade markings. The included pic has all of the variations that I know of having been made. The life of the production of these knives was quite short lived for several reasons. First Gaffers are illegal ( for the most part ) except in salt water. Next they look awkward and did not have the svelt lines of there counterpart ( the two bladed version). Also they were tricky to polish during production often the gaff would snag while being polished and instead of a tarpon the person working on the knife would would get caught instead of a fish. Because of these factors these knives are among the rarest pattern produced by Ulster and or Schrade. There may have been a version made for other large chain stores but, I cannot at this point confirm it. I have only seen one with the Schrade marking and I own it.
As far as falling while doing the tarp strangely as I was falling and thought that this might be my moment of release from mortal bonds, the thing going through my mind was the line from the old song ( The answer my friend is blowing in the wind).
Regarding the movie it's a wonderful life I remember looking forward to it all the years when I had a family. Now however my feelings have changed the fact is I would like to punch the angel Clarence in the nose and stuff the JU JU petals up his nose. The only characters I like are the bartender and the mean guy Mr Potter. They are the only ones who really understand what the world is about and chances are would in reality be the only ones who had any chance of ever being able to retire. Jimmy Stewart should have taken his trip when he was young enough to enjoy the pleasures of a south sea island where the people run around half dressed. Donna Reed probably would have been a good spinster and smarter since she would have had more time to read in the library she would have worked at. At least she would have had a job which she never did in the movie. I liked the girl who played the loose woman who liked Jimmy stewart . I think I knew the druggist when he did time. I liked the pool under the basketball concept and understand why no one could afford a new home since a school in those days with a gym and pool like that must have made the taxes outrageous. No wonder Mr Potter was a creep and so ticked off he probably had to fund most of it since he was the only one in town with any money. Mostly though at this point in my life I identify with the Uncle who lost the money and could not remember anything now that is my kind of guy. Just ruin everyone with stupidity and then say golly I am so sorry. All this being said thankyou for your suggestion which I realize was offered with the best intentions however I believe that rather than watching that movie I would prefer to dig my thanksgiving turkey out of the garbage and eat it again. Excuse me I am going out to lasso the moon and then make a noose from the loose end. FA LA LA. LT
Please excuse my being politically incorrect in my remarks about various people with alternate life styles such as faggots ect I tend to forget sometimes that freedom of speech is limited by what is in vogue. To each his own, it is just that values and language change it used to be that being gay ment being happy and the term throw another faggot on the fire ment to put a log in the fireplace.
Regarding the gaffer I have related this story a while ago but perhapes it is worth repeating. This knife came about when Albert Baer was Tarpon fishing with Ted William in Florida. They were old friends and knew each other for many years through both of there affialiations with SEARS. Williams of course was the represenative for the Sears sporting goods line. While fishing together one day, Williams gaffed a tarpon with a gaffer knife ( these were sold by various companies I have included a few in the attached pics ). This lead to a conversation about why Schrade ( or Ulster ) did not produce such a knife. One of the problems was having a third backspring on the knife however Baer was already producing such a fishing knife ( with a third backspring ). Only the spring sported a fold up beer can opener which originally was a model produced by imperial. Upon return from the trip Baer called a friend of mine into his office explained what he wanted and told him to make it. It was interesting to hear from the fellow who actually designed and built the proto type just how he did it the spring he used ( and reshaped for the original gaff hook ect. ). These were marketed by sears with an Ulster tang and a JC Higgins etch. A few were also made with Schrade markings. The included pic has all of the variations that I know of having been made. The life of the production of these knives was quite short lived for several reasons. First Gaffers are illegal ( for the most part ) except in salt water. Next they look awkward and did not have the svelt lines of there counterpart ( the two bladed version). Also they were tricky to polish during production often the gaff would snag while being polished and instead of a tarpon the person working on the knife would would get caught instead of a fish. Because of these factors these knives are among the rarest pattern produced by Ulster and or Schrade. There may have been a version made for other large chain stores but, I cannot at this point confirm it. I have only seen one with the Schrade marking and I own it.
As far as falling while doing the tarp strangely as I was falling and thought that this might be my moment of release from mortal bonds, the thing going through my mind was the line from the old song ( The answer my friend is blowing in the wind).
Regarding the movie it's a wonderful life I remember looking forward to it all the years when I had a family. Now however my feelings have changed the fact is I would like to punch the angel Clarence in the nose and stuff the JU JU petals up his nose. The only characters I like are the bartender and the mean guy Mr Potter. They are the only ones who really understand what the world is about and chances are would in reality be the only ones who had any chance of ever being able to retire. Jimmy Stewart should have taken his trip when he was young enough to enjoy the pleasures of a south sea island where the people run around half dressed. Donna Reed probably would have been a good spinster and smarter since she would have had more time to read in the library she would have worked at. At least she would have had a job which she never did in the movie. I liked the girl who played the loose woman who liked Jimmy stewart . I think I knew the druggist when he did time. I liked the pool under the basketball concept and understand why no one could afford a new home since a school in those days with a gym and pool like that must have made the taxes outrageous. No wonder Mr Potter was a creep and so ticked off he probably had to fund most of it since he was the only one in town with any money. Mostly though at this point in my life I identify with the Uncle who lost the money and could not remember anything now that is my kind of guy. Just ruin everyone with stupidity and then say golly I am so sorry. All this being said thankyou for your suggestion which I realize was offered with the best intentions however I believe that rather than watching that movie I would prefer to dig my thanksgiving turkey out of the garbage and eat it again. Excuse me I am going out to lasso the moon and then make a noose from the loose end. FA LA LA. LT
