Which Busse grips have the most grip?

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emt1581

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My least favorite grip material is Micarta. The one I like the most is CS's Kraton. I want a grip that grips to my hand, not one that is slippery under any circumstance.

Which is the grippiest grip Busse offers? Thanks

-Emt1581
 
Well I think most here will agree that the Res-C that Busse Combat, Swamp Rat and Scrap Yard offer, is what your after. The new B-Series blades and including the old B-Series all have the Res-C. This grip material is not as soft of some Kratons I've handled but it still is comfortable and everyone here will also agree that as far as chopping cushioning for the hand Res-C is the answer. Just do a search on the companies and here on the forum and you will see how everyone swears by this stuff.

Oh, and welcome to the forum Bro!!!
 
RussMo said:
Well I think most here will agree that the Res-C that Busse Combat, Swamp Rat and Scrap Yard offer, is what your after. The new B-Series blades and including the old B-Series all have the Res-C. This grip material is not as soft of some Kratons I've handled but it still is comfortable and everyone here will also agree that as far as chopping cushioning for the hand Res-C is the answer. Just do a search on the companies and here on the forum and you will see how everyone swears by this stuff.

Oh, and welcome to the forum Bro!!!
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Thanks for the warm welcome. :)

I think what you are talking about is the same thing on my SY Regulator. Not sure that would work on a Combat Boss Jack. In another thread "Paper" and "Linen" were suggested instead of the G10 I was originally going to go with. No clue what paper and linen are but I think those and a few others are my choices.

Thanks

-Emt1581
 
What I suggest you do is either go to a show if you live in an area were a show will be or contact someone or several people close to you and spend a little in gas to go to meet them. I really don't know anyone who has not been open to showing some of there piece's so that you can handle different models and different handle materials. Me personally I like G-10, others like one of the three grades of micarta, Canvas, linen, and Paper. Then you throw in the colors and the fun begins. I'm not going to run one type of material down and run another up, that's your decision. Like I said find some of the guys in your area and have a meet and greet. Several of us do it up here and I know a LOT of the guys and gals down there meet from time to time.

In a short, Micarta is a composite of a material (canvas, linen or paper) and a phenolic resin. G-10 is a composite of fiberglass and epoxy resin. Each types have there strength and weakness. I work in the turbine industry and use all of it in one application or another. We have now moved on to using G-11 which has a higher working temperature that G-10, but that's probably just useless trivia regarding knife hands.

The one thing I do know and it's this, Jerry and crew make and or have made so many knives over the years that there is something for everyone. Finding what I like has been a fun adventure in itself and I have met one hell of a lot of fine people along the way. Trust me when I say the folks here will help you, all you have to do is ASK.

Where are you located? Just a general area is fine here, another words a city.
 
RussMo said:
What I suggest you do is either go to a show if you live in an area were a show will be or contact someone or several people close to you and spend a little in gas to go to meet them. I really don't know anyone who has not been open to showing some of there piece's so that you can handle different models and different handle materials. Me personally I like G-10, others like one of the three grades of micarta, Canvas, linen, and Paper. Then you throw in the colors and the fun begins. I'm not going to run one type of material down and run another up, that's your decision. Like I said find some of the guys in your area and have a meet and greet. Several of us do it up here and I know a LOT of the guys and gals down there meet from time to time.

In a short, Micarta is a composite of a material (canvas, linen or paper) and a phenolic resin. G-10 is a composite of fiberglass and epoxy resin. Each types have there strength and weakness. I work in the turbine industry and use all of it in one application or another. We have now moved on to using G-11 which has a higher working temperature that G-10, but that's probably just useless trivia regarding knife hands.

The one thing I do know and it's this, Jerry and crew make and or have made so many knives over the years that there is something for everyone. Finding what I like has been a fun adventure in itself and I have met one hell of a lot of fine people along the way. Trust me when I say the folks here will help you, all you have to do is ASK.

Where are you located? Just a general area is fine here, another words a city.
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Lehigh Valley, PA Allentown/Bethlehem/Easton area.

I've been told that G-10 is slippery when wet. That is NOT what I want.

The problem I had with Micarta is the it does NOT clean well and it was not overly grippy. Something rubberized, checkered, or sand paper-like would be preferable. If there is a way to add cord/grip surfaces to griips, that'd work to if worse came to worst.

Thanks for the info.

-Emt1581
 
emt1581 said:
Lehigh Valley, PA Allentown/Bethlehem/Easton area.

I've been told that G-10 is slippery when wet. That is NOT what I want.

The problem I had with Micarta is the it does NOT clean well and it was not overly grippy. Something rubberized, checkered, or sand paper-like would be preferable. If there is a way to add cord/grip surfaces to griips, that'd work to if worse came to worst.

Thanks for the info.

-Emt1581
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Really? :) ...Cool, another guy to help me to try and convince the Crew to return to Easton for another Traveling Trough show!! :thumbup:
We enjoyed a visit from the Busse Crew in the fall of '09 & very late fall of '10 when they made an appearance at the Hampton Inn Easton... :)
I'm southwest-ish of you, between Philly and Lancaster, out in Chester Co.

Russ is right on the Rec-C, and second to that, I'd say textured canvas micarta or even linen micarta. It is fairly easy to clean... Hot water from the tap and some hand or dish soap and an old toothbrush can bring a canvas or linen micarta handle back to clean...usually. Also...there was a thread about a guy who used pieces of bicycle tire tubes...he slid them over the existing micarta handles. IIRC, he said it worked well.
 
Shoot man there are several forum members right there in your area:)

G-10, well I've heard those reports as well about slippery. I have used G-10 with my hands dripping sweat and or out in the rain. To me I have found the direct opposite. I find that G-10 gives me more grip and the only way I can explain it is that the G-10 is such a dence material that water acts as a medium giving your skin traction. Again this is how it reacts with me. Were a person lives, oils in there skin, a number of thing will affect how a certain material acts and or reacts.

What kind of micarta were you using? A lot of people like micarta ESPECIALLY Canvas, cause it gives a great grip and is warming to the touch. Linen is smoother and paper is the smoothest, again my opion. I found canvas micarta easy to clean up including getting blood and congealed animal fat off of it. Dawn soap and luck warm water will knock it out everytime. Towel dry, put it in front of a fan to dry out the micarta then oil as needed.

Rubberized, I've seen threads were someone used a heat shrink material and sucked it down on the grip, therefore giving it a rubberized handle.

Seen people remove the grip plates and wrap the tang out with 550 cord just like so many of the survival blades out there. As they say the world is your oyster, make it the way you want it.
 
Resiprene C is good stuff if you want rubber type handles.

Kraton is the worst handle material, it disintegrates if you look at it funny.
 
I think it's just something you have to find as far as ergonomics just as much as materials. I have used most everything at some point. I live in the Great Northwet and sweat like a horse ran hard, but G10 is by far the best for me on the knives I use for detail and wet work. Canvas Micarta (especially on Fusion slabs) and Res-C are my faves for choppers. But this is all for my specifics and you will find as many differing opinions as materials. As suggested, check them out at a show, or even better, get to know someone near you with INFI and meet up for show and chop. Good luck! Finding the "Ones" is half the fun.
 
Rat Finkenstein said:
Another option is to rehandle your choice of blade in Horse stall mat, like is used on competition cutters.
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Rat beat me to it. Since the Bussekin Resiprene C is molded on to the tang, it is not an option for your BOSS Jack. You could order the knife with micarta (cheapest, and some people do like the grip, depends on the texture/pattern). Then, find a knifemaker who will make custom scales for you from the rubber horse stall mat material.
 
Rat Finkenstein said:
Resiprene C is good stuff if you want rubber type handles.

Kraton is the worst handle material, it disintegrates if you look at it funny.
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This has not been my experience. Over time maybe. But when I was hacking apart fallen trees (branches 6" thick) with my Gurkha Kukri it looked new after a few consistent hours of use and did not slip out of my gloved/bare hands even once.

But I'm getting the feeling that the Micarta is the best choice on the Combat Boss Jack I've got coming.

I just wish I could try it first. What is the best way to find Busse owners that are willing to let me hold their knives for a few seconds?

Thanks

-Emt1581
 
Machined handles G10 or Micarta are too good to be true as grip so far if you ask me...

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Well, those G-10 SAR3's were razor blades and dug into your palm deep for a great grip til the blood started flowing :)

But I would say sand/aluminum oxide blasted (not bead blasted) canvas have the most grip
 
Ok sounds like we're getting warmer...so MACHINING or MEDIA BLASTING is the key... Still sounds like Micarta canvas would be the winner. Is there a specific pattern or texture I should ask for? I know Dave you mentioned sand/al. ox. blasting.... will they do that on a CBJ?

Good thing it's a weekend and I can put my absolute final requests in on Monday or Tuesday because....

Another thing I'm looking at is the grind. I know in my experience flat grinds suck for batoning through small wood. I think a hollow grind would work better for utility. Again, is this an option on the CBJ?

Thanks!

-Emt1581
 
emt1581 said:
Ok sounds like we're getting warmer...so MACHINING or MEDIA BLASTING is the key... Still sounds like Micarta canvas would be the winner. Is there a specific pattern or texture I should ask for? I know Dave you mentioned sand/al. ox. blasting.... will they do that on a CBJ?

Good thing it's a weekend and I can put my absolute final requests in on Monday or Tuesday because....

Another thing I'm looking at is the grind. I know in my experience flat grinds suck for batoning through small wood. I think a hollow grind would work better for utility. Again, is this an option on the CBJ?

Thanks!

-Emt1581
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There's a limited set of machining patterns that can go on the slabs of any particular knife. I tried asking for the grid pattern of a CABS LE (http://www.bussecollector.com/gallery/catalog_photos/CABSLE.jpg) on a BOSS Jack, but they couldn't do it. I assume it's because these patterns are painstakingly programmed in somehow.

If you want a different pattern (or none at all) other than the rope cut available on the standard Combat Grade BOSS Jacks, then you'll be getting into custom territory even just from that one change. Personal experience ;) but that's direct from Busse--you could always get it modified by someone else, too. The rope cut pattern is great for grip, though. And I like canvas Micarta because it somehow feels softer and grippier.

Same thing with the grind... full-height convex is standard, and anything else from Busse will get you into custom pricing. The way it works is they take the price of the LE version of that model then add onto it the cost of labor, materials, anything else they didn't mention to me in that e-mail. Either way, this is different from what you're saying though. The CGBJ is full-height convex, not flat. The LE is saber ground but has a convex edge.
 
I own atleast one knife with Kraton, G-10, Res-c and micarta. Personally Micarta is my favorite overall but each has its strengths and weaknesses. Kraton seems very cheap to me and Im not a fan, although its a light weight/cheap handle option. I think G-10 is the hardest, most durable but also the heaviest. It may get more slippery than the rest when wet but i wouldnt say it "slippery when wet." Micarta is the next "most durable" besides G10, its lighter than g10 and very grippy wet or dry..it does have an absorption property though, its only downside in my opinion, and I wouldnt choose it for skinning animals and the such because animal blood product gets embedded in it... Res C is the grippiest of them all and very light, but the only problem is that if hit hard enough it could techinally rip...Ive seen this happen in pics on this forum when the butt was being used as a hammer. But Res-c for choppers in the best.. soft, grippy and shock absorbing. I love it on my dog father and basic 11.
 
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