Which folder has a blade that......

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Tetsusaiga

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...... because of its size/appearance/shape/length would intimidate a potential troublemaker enough for him to back down or think twice about creating trouble or bullying you???

Mind you, I'm not talking about protecting your life here but rather to deter someone looking to have some fun at your expense..

so... what folders can do that??
 
Oh, jeez . . .

There certainly are some really serious looking knives on the market, but getting the right one for just that special someone who recognizes it's lethality as a "back off" message just won't fly.

The real problem is that they have already assessed you and decided you are a victim - you look less threatening than their skill level. Maybe they just like to intimidate others for their own weak ego propping. Whatever, what you need to do is not wave a knife around that will get you arrested for "brandishing." You need to have more confidence in your self -defense skills to simply face down the jerk and mean it.

Start taking ANY martial arts course from a reputable instructor, preferably one who has police officers as students. Rubbing shoulders and hitting the mat with them will gain you the skills and insight to understand and deal with the real problem.

Do not continue looking for the legendary "Knife of Immense Power." It's not out there. I got it first.

My oldest found it in the cheat codes for "Zelda."
 
Unfortunately, if you pull a knife just to intimidate someone that wants to have fun at your expense, you may end up in a place where large men will have fun at your expense.

If you're not interested in protecting your life, or the life of another, there is probably no reason for you to pull a knife.
 
I don't know how to answer this but I will give it a try. I think pretty much any knife even box cutters and sissors are intimidating, if it is being wielded by some one who appears intimidating, determined, confident, and skilled. However, someone holding a knife who appears scared, and inconfident, may be in trouble. Run like hell.

Running like hell is usually the best thing to do if the option is available.

Its bad enough to get into a confrontation. It gets even worse if weopons come into play. After the confrontation, and if you are lucky enough to heal up, then you have to tell it to the judge, jury and the jailer too.
 
OK...this has trouble written all over it. Isn't there a saying "never brandish a weapon unless your prepared to use"? If you are even thinking about pulling out a knife on an individual the only reason would be to "protect your life", just as you would as if it were a gun, so please rethink why you would want to do this.
tirod3 gave you the answer to your problem...train...learn...build confidence....develop a biting wit even...and accept the fact that if you have problems with an individual, have a plan to eventually effectively deal with it....but not by flashing around some weapon that will definitely get you in some sort of trouble, if not taken from you and used against you.
 
Ok guys.. thanks for the advice.. maybe my post came out all wrong. Understand the need to have some solid grounded self defense skills. Not disputing that.

I was thinking that maybe pulling out a blade would intimidate someone enough for them to back off before the need to really use it comes along.
 
A Cold Steel Vaquero Grande is pretty formidible looking and quite capable too for that matter.

STR
 
As you can guess, it's really debatable.

Aside for the legal and combative arts question - will it actually back off a potential assailant? It's tricky - if the perp has their own weapon, it could actually escalate the situation. If you took it all wrong, it was just rough talk from a tired guy beaten down all day, now you're attacking his mental self image just the way yours was. He may get ticked and wrongly decide to thump you anyway.
Experienced hoods may just laugh - they grew up with violence and passed throught the knife stage to guns at thirteen. If he's already decided you are keeping him from his next fix, it may just set off his decision to act with a focus on extreme violence to get what he wants.

You can't really read their mind to see what level of force you need to equal. Firearms always have the trump in this scenario because you can literally reach out and touch them beyond their reach. Knives are woefully inadequate in this regard - and they have no immediate stopping power. Sure you could cut the guy, but that may be acceptable at this point. Cuts heal - scars are badges of honor.

Overwhelming intimidation requires imposing something they can't deal with, such as firearms, or a cell phone with camera. Taking their picture may set them off anyway, but if they are at all capable of a little thought, they know heat will come. It takes that kind of one-upmanship - the recognition that the odds are stacked in your favor, and they have room to back out.

Is that more what you need? And sorry I sounded gruff at first. It's a point I went through to arrive where I am - just trying to be concise with my experience.
 
Tetsusaiga said:
...... because of its size/appearance/shape/length would intimidate a potential troublemaker enough for him to back down or think twice about creating trouble or bullying you???

Mind you, I'm not talking about protecting your life here but rather to deter someone looking to have some fun at your expense..

so... what folders can do that??
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I wouldn't depend on any knife for that. It's the person, not the tool
 
I was thinking that maybe pulling out a blade would intimidate someone enough for them to back off before the need to really use it comes along.
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Probably not the best thinking, here is why in LA for example the mentality is show it use it.
So that being said It's best to keep it in your pocket "at hand" and (this is not being a coward just being smart) talk walk or run your way out of the situation.

One other point, displaying a weapon constitutes "brandishing" in most places and is viewed as "Aggressive" behavior rather than Defensive behavior.


Bors
 
the problem is that you could be up against someone who is either on drugs, drunk, or just plain insane and then it may not matter to them what type of weapon you are brandishing. If you pull a weapon on someone you had better be prepared to use it.
 
OK.. sounds reasonable. If I pull a knife, I better be prepared to use it. Was just thinking that it might intimidate enough for them to back off without me having to actually use it, thats all.

By the way, I live in Asia and guns are a big no no. Where I am, there ain't no civilians carrying guns.

And tirod3.. no problems at all with your comments...
 
OK.. sounds reasonable. If I pull a knife, I better be prepared to use it. Was just thinking that it might intimidate enough for them to back off without me having to actually use it, thats all.
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Sounds good in theory and if it works great but unfortunatly in reality it just esculates the situation and you will end up using after all. Best to use you wits to manage the situation, keep the knife in your pocket, pulling it only to cut and then return it to your pocket.


By the way, I live in Asia and guns are a big no no. Where I am, there ain't no civilians carrying guns.
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What about criminals?
what do they carry?



Bors
 
Tetsusaiga said:
......Was just thinking that it might intimidate enough for them to back off.....
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Well, I have had that reaction from lots of people when I pull out my tiny Swiss Army knife; and I bet I could also run into someone intent on harming me who would just laugh if I pulled out my Spyderco Matriarch or REKAT Sifu. As others have said, if you show it - better be prepared to need to use it. I believe showing it to "intimidate" is seen as "brandishing" in most jurisdictions over here. Either way, stay safe.
 
Any of those bowie knives, kukris, swords, a hatchet, machete - especially that cold steel two handed machete, a spear, etc.

Oh, I think one of those farm sickles would scare someone silly.
 
Tetsusaiga said:
...... because of its size/appearance/shape/length would intimidate a potential troublemaker enough for him to back down or think twice about creating trouble or bullying you???

Mind you, I'm not talking about protecting your life here but rather to deter someone looking to have some fun at your expense..

so... what folders can do that??
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Your idea is NOT a good one, unless you want a world of legal troubles!! You do NOT pull out a knife or any weapon for that matter for intimidation purposes!! That is a very bad idea!!
 
I hope your intimidating knife is worth a few years in the clink, 'cause that's what you're looking at.

If you feel the need for a true self defense weapon, take some firearm training classes and pay attention when they say you must be in danger of your life in order to draw. Then carry whatever pistol suits you.
 
Some great advice here and exactly what I was thinking when I saw the title of the post.:thumbup: One knive that would make me think twice is a Camillus Max Gibbs model (7.0" blade). But the advice given is the FIRST and really ONLY choice!:thumbup:
 
If it's a folder, then it will be in your pocket and it would look like any other folder.

Pretty pointless question IMO.

Smart thing is to avoid trouble unless your the type that has "victim" stamped to your forehead.

Pull a blade and you better accept the fact you too are going to get cut.
 
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