Which is the best tactical folder?

User93 said:
But which one makes the best tactical folder?
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Best for what?

You've opened 7 threads in 4 days, each with just one of your posts in them, never giving us the slightest idea what you do with your knives, or what you like in a knife...so we have no idea what is better for you.

Those two are wildly different knives.

Do you perceive any difference between them? How do you feel those differences will affect the knives performance in doing the things you do?

Like I said in an earlier thread, I don't think you know. And that's fine. We all gotta start somewhere.

I think you are at the point where you are considering based on "coolness" or "price" or something like that.

So just buy the knife that looks cooler. We dont know what you think is cool.

Just buy something and use it and see if it functions for you.
 
I have a few knives from each brand, some which I think would be good (but not "best") tactical folders, if by tactical you mean "emergency" use, whatever that might be. The grips on the Code 4 are too slick for some conditions, and the Aegis is - in my opinion - too fragile in terms of blade thickness and overall construction for any bad situation where a knife would realistically be a deciding factor in surviving.

I'd sooner use the cheaper SOG Salute or bulkier Cold Steel Recon 1 if limited to just those two brands.
 
Of those two I'd take the SOG. Much lighter with more grippy handle. I had the mini until my wife lost it, cool little knife with a great leaf blade.
 
I would go Code 4 over the SOG but it would not make a good "tactical" knife. Aluminum handles can be and are slippery, they don't provide near enough grip to be useful in that kind of situation. I think knives make lousy personal protection weapons but if you must, find something with better grip.
 
I have no idea what a "tactical" knife is?

Can someone please explain it to me....?
 
Swiss Army Knife.

No question. Probably, the only true tactical knife, or knife to be used in a tactic... unless you are named Ahnold.
 
I'm not a fan of the whole tacticool thing, but we need to be realistic. What matters is having a blade shape that will do the job and a lock that wont fail and chop your fingers as you could possibly be putting the knife and lock under stresses from not only the 'correct' angles. At the end of the day, companies can make all the cool looking tacticool knives they want with cool makers names behind them, but cold steel will beat them all in my opinion because A - they'll flick out like any other knife if you're used to your knife and B - you wont lose a finger in your emergency situation. Nice not having to care about squeezing the framelock hard during use to keep it solid or hoping your tang and lock bar angles are cut correctly from the factory to not slip out and chop your hand up. I own cold steels but carry mostly a benchmade 943/710 and a sebenza 21. Cold steel knives are purpose built and for their intended purpose they're hard to beat.
 
Mick_1KRR said:
I'm not a fan of the whole tacticool thing, but we need to be realistic. What matters is having a blade shape that will do the job and a lock that wont fail and chop your fingers as you could possibly be putting the knife and lock under stresses from not only the 'correct' angles. At the end of the day, companies can make all the cool looking tacticool knives they want with cool makers names behind them, but cold steel will beat them all in my opinion because A - they'll flick out like any other knife if you're used to your knife and B - you wont lose a finger in your emergency situation. Nice not having to care about squeezing the framelock hard during use to keep it solid or hoping your tang and lock bar angles are cut correctly from the factory to not slip out and chop your hand up. I own cold steels but carry mostly a benchmade 943/710 and a sebenza 21. Cold steel knives are purpose built and for their intended purpose they're hard to beat.
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So to shorten up your post; Cold Steel = "Tactical" ?

About your lock-up observations;

I am not sure how many/makes of frame locks you've used, but I have used a ton in all price ranges.
(only locking system I like)
I use my knives for anything and everything.
Never have I had an issue with failure or even felt as though it may occur during a task....

Maybe I am just lucky?
 
Seneca18 said:
I would go Code 4 over the SOG but it would not make a good "tactical" knife. Aluminum handles can be and are slippery, they don't provide near enough grip to be useful in that kind of situation. I think knives make lousy personal protection weapons but if you must, find something with better grip.
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Alright...so a "knife as a weapon" thing again.

That's easy, it's in everyone's kitchen...

Ground super thin, very pointy, no moving parts that may fail or just not work.
Handles are very ergonomic, and they seem to work great considering the vast majority of knife related assualts/murders include those cheap knives we all cut food with.

Tactical knife = Kitchen Knife.

I get it....
 
JR88FAN said:
So to shorten up your post; Cold Steel = "Tactical" ?

About your lock-up observations;

I am not sure how many/makes of frame locks you've used, but I have used a ton in all price ranges.
(only locking system I like)
I use my knives for anything and everything.
Never have I had an issue with failure or even felt as though it may occur during a task....

Maybe I am just lucky?
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No, i don't think cold steel = tacticool at all. I think cold steel are purpose built to not fail on you and just give you piece of mind - that can carry over to those "taticool" situations.

Hey i'm not against the frame lock, that's why i carry a sebenza and i love it for EDC cutting. But i'll say this, if there was a wild boar in front of me about to attack (silly scenario but you get it) and there was a table next to me with a spear point Cold Steel Recon 1 and my Sebenza 21....I think it's pretty obvious which knife a sensible person would pick up if their life depended on it, the spring tension in a frame lock while perfectly adequate for hard cutting and EDC tasks, mighit not hold up as well if the blade where to have positive and negative forces applied in an awkward situation in certain conditions. Anyways, i don't want to get into a debate, i really am not a fan of this topic because it can make you seem like you're being very closed minded, it's just opinion based on the engineering of the lock designs. Cheers
 
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marcinek said:
Best for what?

You've opened 7 threads in 4 days, each with just one of your posts in them, never giving us the slightest idea what you do with your knives, or what you like in a knife...so we have no idea what is better for you.

Those two are wildly different knives.

Do you perceive any difference between them? How do you feel those differences will affect the knives performance in doing the things you do?

Like I said in an earlier thread, I don't think you know. And that's fine. We all gotta start somewhere.

I think you are at the point where you are considering based on "coolness" or "price" or something like that.

So just buy the knife that looks cooler. We dont know what you think is cool.

Just buy something and use it and see if it functions for you.
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Thanks marcinek for this information ! Hard to take OP seriously , but others often read BF and may benefit ?

Assuming the OP was even meaningful , I believe it belongs in Prac/Tac where at least some posters will entertain the notion that a folding knife might be "tactical" .
 
Andy the Aussie said:
.... what exactly are the essential aspects of a tactical folder ? Besides "must look cool" ?
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I hope the wuestion is honest and not a flame war starter, so in that case:

a. Easy to open, intuitive deployment even under stress
b. One handed opening is key
c. Strong and reliable locking mechanism, must whitstand heavy loads
d. Thick enough blade so as not to break or split if hitting bone, being twisted or thrown to the ground, etc.
e. Blade 3" or longer, preferably, so as to be able to cause punctures, incapacitating slashes and wounds...
f. Grippy and secure grip and handles, allowing for great retention and control of knife
g. Legal in your area, has to be carried in order to be used (this is not 100% mandatory, ...)
h. Knife built strong enough, blade with sufficient width, appropiate blade shape etc. are all pluses
 
DocJD said:
Thanks marcinek for this information ! Hard to take OP seriously , but others often read BF and may benefit ?
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There is no knowledge to be gained by us throwing out random knives because we don't know what the OP wants. There is no information in that randomness.

I could suggest an Opinel mushroom knife, a Tram machete, and Stanley razor knife, and I would 1) be as close to what the OP wants as anybody else; and 2) those 3 random knives dont provide any information to anybody. I am just listing knives.

Its like asking "What should I eat?" and having everybody throw out random foodstuffs. It provides no information other than a list of foodstuffs.

In the end, one would get the same amount of information (more even), buy just going to one of our supporting retailers and randomly browsing their site.
 
marcinek said:
There is no knowledge to be gained by us throwing out random knives because we don't know what the OP wants. There is no information in that randomness.

I could suggest an Opinel mushroom knife, a Tram machete, and Stanley razor knife, and I would 1) be as close to what the OP wants as anybody else; and 2) those 3 random knives dont provide any information to anybody. I am just listing knives.

Its like asking "What should I eat?" and having everybody throw out random foodstuffs. It provides no information other than a list of foodstuffs.

In the end, one would get the same amount of information (more even), buy just going to one of our supporting retailers and randomly browsing their site.
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Or how bout reading more and starting less random & meanigless threads that the OP just ignores???
Ugh
Joe
 
palonej said:
Or how bout reading more and starting less random & meanigless threads that the OP just ignores???
Ugh
Joe
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That's always an option. At least give us the chance to exchange some meaningful opinions and information.

I realize, like I said repeatedly, that the guy is new...we all were. But, heck, you can ask "What's the best apple?" forever, but until you have actually had an apple, its pointless.

Get off the pot, and buy a Delica/Grip and a Vic SAK. Use them. Then, we can get someplace, you know? We got a baseline.

"Well, I like a lock, but I didn't like the lock on the Delica." Then we got a conversation.
 
What makes any knife, fixed or folding, tactical is the willingness, ability, awareness and skill to use it in a defensive manner in a dangerous situation preceded by the perception to avoid the dangerous situation in the first place.

If you have to ask which knife is more tactical, you probably should stay away for areas that would require its use.

Edit: I'm limiting tactical to a defensive situation under the assumption the OP isn't planning a knife attack at the Mall.
 
And there is the question of, by "tactical folder," does the OP mean "one handed opening locking folder", or "knife fighting/SD folder."

Who knows. Neither of the options presented seem particularly "dedicated SD."
 
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