Which Knives out now will go up in value, become unicorns ?

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IceCold

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I have my eye on a few knives and a sprint run, I don't want to mention which, right now because I want to see what people post.

I really feels a few models now might be in that Kershaw Tilt category where it becomes a $600-$1,000 knife soon after its no longer available. Also the knives are from other brands not necessarily Kershaw.

All replies are very appreciated.
 
I highly suggest investing in jarbenzas. Right now they are going for $5.78 per share, but are predicted to go up to $9.99 by year end. Many vendors are willing to trade straight across for your CRK, Hinderer, Strider or other high end production knife.
 
I don't think it will reach Tilt-level prices, but there's something about the Spyderco Firefly that leads me to believe it will be a fairly sought-after model once its long-discontinued, and the asking prices will reflect that.
 
Charlie Mike said:
Why try to guess? Knives are a horrible investment. Day trading would be more likely profitable than speculation on production knives.
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Agreed.

I own a couple of Kershaws that have doubled in price but I never expected that to happen. I also have parted with a few production knives that are now worth a small fortune. You just never know.
 
Investing in knives is like investing in chocolate. You end up eating much of the cost.
 
brancron said:
I don't think it will reach Tilt-level prices, but there's something about the Spyderco Firefly that leads me to believe it will be a fairly sought-after model once its long-discontinued, and the asking prices will reflect that.
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http://www.bladehq.com/item--Zero-Tolerance-0095S90BLK-Flipper--67640

I didn't want to post for fear of selling out, I had to buy it. Maybe you guys disagree I wanted to see if anyone would mention it.

And everyone mentioning Quartermaster knives sealed it. Similar angular style, and high grade steels all blacked out with a DLC coated almost Warnclif blade. Looked like an updated Tilt, heck even Quartermaster.com on their website has a Kershaw Tilt ripoff design, (waiting for them to make it)

In the mean time the ZT 0095 BLK gets my vote for doubling in value and become ingrained a arare unicorn the day it's no longer for sale.

Also someone mentioned investing in knives is a bad ideas, yes I agree. That's why you put money in the hands of those trained to make it, $10,000 into the NASDAQ in March 2009, multiplied itself into $22,000 just the other day. Should have put in more.
 
Look to what already has.

Randall
Blackjack
Loveless
Dozier
Chris Reeves
ad infinitum

While the flipper market goes up and down one specific problem exists - what might suddenly peak in price after production ceases a year later may also collapse five years later. Many of the folders now marketed are fashion knives, not iconic standards long produced with an extensive history.

So, what just recently stopped production after 25 years and which has it's unique style which broke ground other makers didn't? That will be a model which appreciates in the long term. Not a bubble knife which gets lost in the background noise after five years.

If you want to look at it as an investment you have to look at how the public overall will place it. Nobody much cared for the HK P7 when it came out - quirky was the nicest description - yet they routinely sell for their original (and high) MSRP now.

What knives that were hallmarks in new design and technology more than ten years ago are what you seek. Not last weeks fad.
 
brancron said:
I don't think it will reach Tilt-level prices, but there's something about the Spyderco Firefly that leads me to believe it will be a fairly sought-after model once its long-discontinued, and the asking prices will reflect that.
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I really like the design of the Firefly, but $210 for a small folder with VG-10 doesn't add up to "long-term sought after" for me. I understand it's got a bit of a Peter Carey tax added, but I don't see it exceeding the popularity of the Rubicon, which was similarly overpriced and underwhelming. You could certainly be right though, our difference of opinion just highlights how hard it is predict the knife market.
 
http://www.randallknives.com/knives/model-1-all-purpose-fighting-knife/

and all others posted as Knives going up in value, and the Blackjack and Loveless or Mantis or Quatermaster, seems like the general thinking is Most likely what will go up in Value are these very Limited Production runs from very small comapanies.

For example the Kershaw Tilt was from a major company, Limited Production and really wild style. Why the stopped making it I'll never know, Now they go for $1,000+
 
Anything featuring something different in highly popular brands, often is sought after driving the price up after they've been cut. The Spyderco Tuff went for a bit over 200 when it was in the line, you heard a lot of people say they didn't like it's looks. It wasn't really a hot knife at all while available. Now they're hard to find and bringing twice what they went for.
 
I remember watching tv late at night with my wife years ago and flipping through the channels to pause on some home shopping show that featured "rare" beanie babies for hundreds of dollars. We stared in amazement as the counter on the screen showed the rubes getting fleeced before our eyes as a Jim Skelton-style huckster breathlessly extolled the rare and incredible opportunity to own a small stuffed animal for $249 or whatever. A couple of months later the craze ended and a lot of people were left holding value-less stuffed animals they'd paid hundreds for.

Of course, that's silly, it could never happen with knives, right? Let's not forget all the people who paid $1000+ for a Hinder flipper (that doesn't really flip) a few years ago. Those knives are going for rock-bottom prices now, as supply caught up with, and then exceeded, demand.

If you try to game it, you'll have to aim for being early rather than late. Let's say Mick "I'm a proven dishonorable douche" Strider's company stopped making pie-slice handled finger choils (with bonus tiny blade!) and you decided to buy up a bunch of SnGs or whatever while they're still going for $350 or whatever on the secondary. Sure, prices may go up, but as demand then rises what's to stop the liar, er, knife-maker/ex-mercenary/lol from cranking them out by the hundreds again to tap that new demand, thus deflating the market? Nothing, in fact it's entirely likely, that's how market forces work.

Invest in the market, don't invest in knives.
 
FullMetalJackass said:
Striders haha

Honestly if you want to speculate, don't invest in knives.
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I appreciate everyone replies, but this is like the 5th time the word investing has been used. Not me nor anyone I know is trying to invest in knives and profit from that.

All I honestly was trying to do was gauge the popularity of the ZT 0095sBLK only 1,000 made S90V all the rest is Titanium DLC coated. Looks insane.

I pin my humble opinion, it's gonna double in value the second it's sold out given its value and compared to others on the market, simple looking Randal Knives selling for $370 looks silly I guess I don't appreciate them fully.

$240 -10% discount from some sites seems worth it.
 
IceCold said:
I appreciate everyone replies, but this is like the 5th time the word investing has been used. Not me nor anyone I know is trying to invest in knives and profit from that.

All I honestly was trying to do was gauge the popularity of the ZT 0095sBLK only 1,000 made S90V all the rest is Titanium DLC coated. Looks insane.

I pin my humble opinion, it's gonna double in value the second it's sold out given its value and compared to others on the market, simple looking Randal Knives selling for $370 looks silly I guess I don't appreciate them fully.

$240 -10% discount from some sites seems worth it.
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I don't think that most ZT LEs have a very good track record for appreciating in value. It's been a while since they really had a LE sell out briskly (the 0606 maybe?). The problem I see with the 0095 that you're looking at; its a model that seems to have sold sluggishly since release, often out shadowed by knives released at the same time, in a steel and finish that isn't universally preferred. That, to me, doesn't set it up to be a knife that will gain any significant value. I think the "rarest aka: most valuable" version of the 0095 series would be the very limited release Russian version. They tend to not be readily found and sell for something above release price.

But here's the point...if it's a knife that you personally want and lust after then it doesn't matter what anyone thinks. You may buy that knife and love it so much it immediately doubles in value...to you :D. The 0095BLK obviously gets your heart pumping, so that makes it a great investment...for you!

I think if you're looking for production knives that will see a bump in value, stick with the larger manufacturers (KAI, Spydie and BM) and pick up some recently discontinued knives that got mixed reviews due to style or never generated a lot of buzz. A perfect example of this to me would be the BM/HK Axis knife. Another thing to look for is a knife that's being replaced with a "new and improved version" like the Gayle Bradley 1 vs. the GB2.

At the end of the day, buy what you like and like what you buy. And dump as much money as you can into your 401k...
 
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