Which one is the Ann McCoy?

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A gaggle of Schrade 100th Anniversary knives have hit the bay recently, and a few are good buys, But.... are they really anniversary issues...or is someone patching together knives and/or sets?

Here are the two most commonly seen 34OT tins. Notice the inserts and pins.


And then there are the "BE" knives, seen often without shields, but now appearing with them. Note they are coined "Limited Edition" shields, not the anniversary coin or banners. The blades are etched.. but......


Cornfusing, especially since only five were listed in the 2004 price list.
Here is one more:


Come on guys, help me out here!:(

Codger
 
THe clampack I won in the contest has the tin and insert shown on the left,but it has the round pin shown on the right.It's never been opened.Toby
 
Codger_64 said:
A gaggle of Schrade 100th Anniversary knives have hit the bay recently, and a few are good buys, But.... are they really anniversary issues...or is someone patching together knives and/or sets?

Here are the two most commonly seen 34OT tins. Notice the inserts and pins.


And then there are the "BE" knives, seen often without shields, but now appearing with them. Note they are coined "Limited Edition" shields, not the anniversary coin or banners. The blades are etched.. but......


Cornfusing, especially since only five were listed in the 2004 price list.
Here is one more:


Come on guys, help me out here!:(

Codger
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There were only 11 BE knives produced at the time of the shut-down according to Andy.
 
While looking for something else I just noticed that there is a picture of these among the museum composits that Larry posted for LT.I don't know if that helps.Toby
 
Regarding the 34OT tins.

For a long time all of the Anniversary tin sets were Sold Out at SMKW. Then one day I noticed they were in stock again, so I ordered two. Both are the tin on the right, but they did not have a pin at all.

It could be that SMKW had the tins made to sell with a batch of anniversary knives that didn't have tins? Or it could be that the different tins were made by Schrade but intended for a different knife model?

-Bob
 
Both tins are real enough. The one with the SW factory picture is shown with the A34OT (and the round hat pin) in the factory ad slick. The one with the 100th logo in the center is shown holding the A94CPT and ASX4CPT special editions (with the money clip). That rectangular pin shown belongs with the older "Cigar Box Classics"? The new Anniversary Classics (blue bone ACB80, ACB296 above) are illustrated with the round pin also.

Codger
 
The one with the 100th logo in the center is shown holding the A94CPT and ASX4CPT special editions (with the money clip).
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So someone was filling extra tins meant for one knife with anniversary OldTimers that didn't have tins? It could be that SMKW did it and would explain the late availability of the 34OT tin sets - it took them extra time to assemble the sets. Or it could be that Schrade did it themselves before closing, which wouldn't suprise me at all since they did it with blades and handles.

Glad it's a 'real' tin anyway, and not something printed up by SMKW.

Best Wishes,
Bob
 
A lot of the patterns, like the "dual Shield" knives, were ordered without tins anyway, and I am sure a lot meant to have tins wound up without after the closing. All conjecture at this point. And if anyone buys a tin without the right pin, they are still available. I kinda/sorta feel like that if SMKW went to the trouble to have more tins printed and made, they would be selling them themselves. I am guessing (only a guess) that the sellers are getting these from Blue Ridge. I've been wrong before. Just ask my wife.

Codger
 
Sort of off topic a little, I remember on the old Schade website seeing a 25OT and 160OT that were going to be offered for the anniversary year. Does anyone know if any of these ever made it to production? Anybody see a proto? I was pretty excited that a run of the old patterns was going to be made, but it appears to have come to naught.
 
OTGuy,
After Schrade went out of business but before Taylor overran their website, I made archive copies of the Schrade website pages. I probably didn't save every page, but the anniversary OT page that I saved has anniversary editions of the 156OT and the 72OT only. Interestingly, the knives in photos have only a blade etch, no special banner shield.

-Bob
 
I also remember the 25 and 160 Anniv web page. I think there was production quality issues with the 25 and none made it out. I dont have any info on the 160.
I did not get a copy of that web page as it was still in beta testing.
TTYL
Larry
 
OT:
Codger, E-mail sent. Let me know if you didn't get it; the zipped file may have been too large.

-Bob
 
I made a forward pass to Irving for conversion to a format dialup doesn't vaporlock on.

Once I got to gathering resources and networking with other collectors, dealers, etc., I was amazed at the shear number of patterns and variations Schrade had either planned, in the works, or produced. I am still collating and crosschecking, but I'll give you a headsup when I have something reasonably reliable. So far, it is looking like in excess of fifty patterns and variants thereof.

Codger
 
unzipped, rezipped and forwarded,
Bob, sent you a couple e-mail too.
ttyl
Larry
 
Glad you guys got that figured out. It didn't occur to me to use a more universal file type for the archive pages. I'm going to 'translate' them to pdf for future distribution.

Larry, thanks for the e-mail.
I think your OT and UH web pages would be a useful tool, for casual visitors and long-time Schrade collectors. You should consider adding the URL to your signature.

Best Wishes,
Bob
 
Thanks Bob,
Its just not ready for prime time yet.
Its meant as a visual aide for collectors and I'll be adding other goodies shortly
Patience.
TTYL
Larry
 
lrv said:
I also remember the 25 and 160 Anniv web page. I think there was production quality issues with the 25 and none made it out.
TTYL
Larry
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This is confirmed. For lack of clip blades, the ACB25 was not produced. It seems that only a few of the intended anniversary issues reached full production. And many of those were incomplete. Thus the odd boxes and pins, unshielded ACB80 blue bones with no etch or box. I am being told to be wary of aftermarket etched blades.

From what I have seen, the "Dual Shield" issues and the A34OT were in full production (meaning 'productus interuptus' left a flotsum of partially finished sets), and the A94CPT, 8OTA, and SH3CPANN Firebirds made it out in limited numbers.

I've not seen an A160OT version yet, or many of the others.

Codger
 
Codger_64 said:
A gaggle of Schrade 100th Anniversary knives have hit the bay recently, and a few are good buys, But.... are they really anniversary issues...or is someone patching together knives and/or sets?

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And then there are the "BE" knives, seen often without shields, but now appearing with them. Note they are coined "Limited Edition" shields, not the anniversary coin or banners. The blades are etched.. but......


Cornfusing, especially since only five were listed in the 2004 price list.
Here is one more:


Come on guys, help me out here!:(

Codger
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and Delander replied: "There were only 11 BE knives produced at the time of the shut-down according to Andy."

......................

Got a stupid question (what's new, huh !!) that most likely is addressed elsewhere in this forum, I've read it, but "senior momenitis" prevents it's recollection much less the ability to find it;

what does the "BE" stand for??

Sure would just L U V to see more/better examples of the BE 152 posted!!

Thanks folks...

dannyb
 

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Schrade had it's own code language, and even that was not consistant. "BE", the best I can figure stood for the handle material common to these knives, Birds Eye Maple. They were produced in many patterns prior to any thought of the centennial editions. Larry has an example made for the tenth anniversary of the NAFC, I believe.
codger
 
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