Which spyder will stay shut best?

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One of the main concern for knives in my pocket is for it to remain shut securely. I think the Sebenza is the perfect knife but I can't bring myself to carry it due to its "ease" of coming open. Once I have commited to opening the blade (after the first 30 degrees or so of blade rotation), I like it to be nice and smooth. My experience with liner locks is that they all come open to easy in the pocket or otherwise.

I am liking the para-military for everything it is, and it seems to stay closed nice when new, but I can't seem to find what is keeping the blade shut. I wish I could take it apart in the store but I can't. Does anyone know what is keeping it shut? A ball and detent? something else?

Also, I like the caly3 for being a lockback knife. Lock backs seem to stay shut really nice (buck, case, syperco persian), but I have never handled the caly in person. Does the caly compare to other lockbacks for staying shut nice and easy?

THANKS.:D
 
In my experience with spydies,the Kris,Chinook,Endura,Native,Pacific Salt & Centofante IV don't open easily by themselves.I'm sure there's a lot more to add.
 
Especially the Kris & Persian,have rather stiff actions,won't open easily by themselves.

Also like to throw in the Volpe to the list.
 
The military will open with the flip of you thumb but there is no chance it will open in your pocket.
 
My experience with NativeIII, Crossbill, Tasman, Salt1, Delica, NativeII, and Caly3 are that they dont open easily on their own. Mine wont fully open with a hard flick of my wrist. I am comfortable carrying these in my pocket with out the fear of them opening up.
-frank
 
My military takes quite a bit of effort to open with the thumb. There is no way for it to open by itself.
 
mongomondo said:
My military takes quite a bit of effort to open with the thumb. There is no way for it to open by itself.
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Yeah, I like the military, but I am trying to scale down the size of the crap I carry around, and I feel that the military is too big. The large sebenza I just bought (from you) is already sold because the thumb stud caught on my pocket upon taking it out, and It comes open very easy to begin with. I am pretty sure I am going to get the Caly3 now.
 
Caly 3 or UKPK are great choices. I like my Caly3 better than my small Sebenza.
 
Well, I EDC a Para and from my experience, it wont open in your pocket. In fact, it's tip-down only, so even if it did (which it wont) it wouldnt be as big a deal. YMMV, of course.
 
The only Spydercos you need to worry about opening accidentally are the Waved models. I see no reason any other would spontaneously open up on you.
 
THG said:
The only Spydercos you need to worry about opening accidentally are the Waved models. I see no reason any other would spontaneously open up on you.
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I don't mean that I am afraid of them opening for no reason, I just worry about those times where something wierd like your finger pushing the blade or a fluke occurence which would result in serious damage to your hands.
 
I suggest you avoid models with the Cobra hood, such as the Salsa and ATR. I've had a Salsa open in my pocket a couple of times, and the ATR has an annoying habit of waving itself open when I least expect it.

The detent on the Parailitary is more than a mere ball and hole. There is a good-sized relief cut in the tang where the compression lock rides against the blade when the knife is closed. It seems to be quite secure, but it provides little closing bias. That is, once you defeat the detent, the blade will stay open rather than springing shut like a lockback or slipjoint will. Ball lock models have a bit more closing bias, but not enough for my peace of mind, since they are all tip-up.

If closing bias is that much of an issue, you should probably stick with lockback models. I've not handled the Caly3, but the Caly Jr. has a pretty strong closing bias, so I would imagine the Caly3 does as well.
 
jk904jk said:
I don't mean that I am afraid of them opening for no reason, I just worry about those times where something wierd like your finger pushing the blade or a fluke occurence which would result in serious damage to your hands.
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Well none of the lockbacks will be a problem for you, then. I actually don't see much of a problem with any knife that uses a thumb hole instead of a stud, since it's hard for something to really get caught in it to open it (especially if you wear it clipped).
 
jk904jk said:
OK, I'M GETTING THE UKPK!!


....now, black,green, or orange.....
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Black can usually be found easier and for less.

Been looking for the orange at a decent price, since it'll be easier to find when I inevitably drop it and, of course, the sheeple factor (orange knives must be safer).
 
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