which type of steel will work best in extreme cold weather?

When I lived up there the temperatures would, on occasion, reach -60F. At -40F it hurts down in your bones, even when you are warm. At -20F the trees start exploding. That kind of cold is very hard on knife steel and on the handle materials, too. The military made due with Ka-Bars (1095). When I was there I carried a Buck Skinner (425M...hard to sharpen) that served well, but for that one issue. I also had a 110. I used an Uncle Henry sheath knife, too (probably 420). But the handles held up well.
Today, Fallkniven makes the Pilot Survival F1 and the Military F1, both for cold weather found in Sweden. If I were wanting a folding knife I would look at the Spyderco Military as it is easy to use with gloves on. You simply DO NOT WANT to touch anything with bare skin. Get some glove liners so if you must take off your MITTENS (better than gloves) you will have some protection.
Remember, water in your eyes will freeze, snot from your nose will run and freeze, your breath will freeze all over the outside of your face protection (do not wear a mask). It is a very hard place to live. l loved it.
Carry a candle with you and something like a BIC or water proof matches so if you get caught out, you can build a snow cave or igloo. Then, once inside the candle will keep you warm enough so you do not freeze to death. Never, ever, ever, lie down on the ground without an insulator or you will wake up dead. The ground. even in summer, is frozen and will sap the heat right out of you, even though a sleeping bag. Also, a space blanket folded small and kept in your cargo pockets or hip pocket of your pants will be a life saver. I had many times where needed to wrap up in one and stay warm (mine was one of the good, thick kind, not the cheezey Walmart kind).
Enjoy your stay :)
 
I third the Fallkniven F1 or S1. Again, they are laminated with a soft outer steel and an inner core of VG-10. This makes for a very tough knife and very rust resistant. If you find yourself with gloves off the handles are rubber, a natural insulator. The handle material provides an excellent grip with gloves on.
 
I'd say a Survive Knives GSO in whatever size you're looking for , made of their Peter's Heat treated CPM 3V would do it . Other than that if you want something that just CAN'T be broken then find an old model Scrap Yard ( by BUSSE ) with their SR-77 (S-7 with their special heat treat) . The Scrap Yards also have what's called Res-c handles , a super tough rubber type compound that is great on the hands in cold weather .
 
Definitely something with good rust resistance too if your anything to like me you will eventually put your knife down on the snow while skinning and such. The last thing you want is to see rust when you pull it out of your sheath the next time you use it
 
wow great feedback everyone!! im leaning towards getting a nice kabar 1095 hunting knife and a bark river skinner out of cpm 3v. not ordering it just yet so if anyone has a any other suggestions let me know. Going to look up fallkniven too

My next question is leather sheath vs kydex sheath for extreme temps.


I'm a big (make that huge) fan of A2, O1 and 1095 in that order for tough outdoor knives. Forget stainless steels - they're brittle enough without the extreme temps.

thanks for al the info. I like the mora idea, probably going to buy them just for extra knives and im going to look in to the chapstick thing lol
 
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The simple steels have a transition temperature @ 0 F. Around that temperature they loose a lot of their toughness. I'd stay away from 1095 for use in really cold weather. See if you can find info on Izod vs temperature for different alloys at different tempered hardness. I've read that the increase in nickel lowers the transition temperature. The laminated steels will help with avoiding the breaking of the blade at low temperatures but the edge will still be more prone to chipping at the lower temperatures.
 
Interesting Bo T!! First I gotta find out what an izod is lol.

And wow just looked up fallkniven and I am deffinitly getting a blade from them. Thanks to everyone who posted and suggested fallkniven. Good stuff! They seem designed for cold weather, thanks vba for explaining vg10!! Sounds exactly what I was looking for.
 
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I lived in Michigan before coming to NC... By far the most winters were from -5f at night to 15f day. I did see a cold -25 degree couple days...

Hey Joe, interesting to hear your story. I'm in the north Ann Arbor and Brighton areas of MI, and last winter was really bad. We had several weeks of temps in the negative teens DURING THE DAY last year. Coldest nighttime temp was -40 deg. (-60 with the wind chill) - now that's freaky cold!

And this year is starting out right where we left off... It's been in the teens at night and 20's during the past few days... and it's not even Thanksgiving yet! Ugh!
 
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Good old 1095 is good option, and affordable too. Tough and keeps the edge well. :thumbup:
 
what type of steel should I choose when picking out my knife. I'm going to be living in the arctic. knife will be used for all around survival and I'll have another for processing game. I'm going to be far away from any way to replace the knife so it needs to be a knife that will last.

I am going to list the types of steels that I have come across so far please let me know which type is optimal for my situation. feel free to let me know of other types as well. keep in mind I am 100% clueless and need help from you blade experts. I'm asking this question because I'm all about preparing for the worst i don't want to get out there with my 400$ A2 steel and have it rust/chip on me after processing a couple of deer in -40 degree weather. not that i will.. i have no idea. please help lol

- stainless
- A2
-1095 cro van
- CPM 3V
- 8cr 13mov
I would hope that if a person were going to live in the arctic that they would have learned everything they needed to know about arctic survival from people who have already been there, including what cutting tools to bring. The arctic is not a forgiving place, and people who venture into such a hostile environment without extensive knowledge and training won't live very long.

i don't want to get out there with my 400$ A2 steel and have it rust/chip on me after processing a couple of deer in -40 degree weather. not that i will.. i have no idea.
If you have no idea what you will need a knife for while living in the arctic, then I suggest that you not go there, because it doesn't sound like you are sufficiently knowledgeable to survive there.

If you are going to the arctic with a person or people who are experienced with living there, then I would suggest asking them what cutting tools to bring (and what steels they should be made of). If you are planning on going alone, I suggest that you find people with a lot of experience in arctic survival who can advise you on what you are in for and what it takes to survive there.
 
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Aaron Gough made a knife that was taken on a trip to Antarctica. He has also done cold weather testing on kydex. Might be worth checking out.
 
I've ask around and AS NOTED in other posts, nickel alloys are the recommended steels for cold weather work (ie -20 to -60 F). 1095 will loose @ 90% of its toughness at those temperatures. 15N20 seems to be the steel that is available and that would work well down to ?? -40 to -50 F. It will also work well at higher temperatures, meaning it won't necessarily be a dedicated cold weather blade.
 
hey killgar I really don't like peope like you. keep you UNHELPFULL comments to yourself. this isn't a social topic where you can toss your 2 cents in. im going to visit my granparents in march so I have lots of time to do my research and prepare. like where else am I gonna get this information im 18, I don't have parents and I don't have teachers FIGURE YOUR OWN LIFE OUT PAL.
 
hey killgar I really don't like peope like you. keep you UNHELPFULL comments to yourself. this isn't a social topic where you can toss your 2 cents in. im going to visit my granparents in march so I have lots of time to do my research and prepare. like where else am I gonna get this information im 18, I don't have parents and I don't have teachers FIGURE YOUR OWN LIFE OUT PAL.

Well, I gotta tell you that I happen to believe that Killgar gave you some potentially life saving advice. I have spent enough time outdoors to know that the climate that you've specified will kill you in minutes the very first time that make a mistake. It is absolutely unforgiving.

While you have some time on your hands at grandma's house, I would recommend that you:

A. Learn Some manners
B. Learn to type a coherent post
C. Get some instruction before putting yourself in the situation that you've described. Otherwise, I would not bet a single dollar bill that you'll be alive a week after you begin your "adventure".

I wish you the best.
 
hey killgar I really don't like peope like you. keep you UNHELPFULL comments to yourself. this isn't a social topic where you can toss your 2 cents in. im going to visit my granparents in march so I have lots of time to do my research and prepare. like where else am I gonna get this information im 18, I don't have parents and I don't have teachers FIGURE YOUR OWN LIFE OUT PAL.

killgar gave you excellent advice, son. Your knife isn't going to turn you magically into Nanook of the North. Knowledge will.
 
what killgar said had nothing to do with my post. he can keep his survival tips to himself. I'm asking what steel would be most durable. not if I should fucking rethink visiting my grandparents because I don't know what type of steel will last in the arctic. so brommeland, marcinek can you maybe consider others before you speak form your high horse please and one more thing for brommeland. you clearly understood my post. there is nothing wrong with it.

SO WHY DONT YOU GUYS GO AND PUT SOMEONE ELSES POST DOWN. all im trying to do is get help. not a bunch of snobby remarks so politely get lost. and like I said before thanks to everyone else who contributed any helpful or interesting information. asking questions is how we learn and I don't have many respectable people around me to ask this stuff.
 
killgar gave you excellent advice, son. Your knife isn't going to turn you magically into Nanook of the North. Knowledge will.

Isn't that why he's here? Seeking knowledge? All he asked about was how to choose a currently well produced cold-weather knife. He didn't ask how to build an igloo or how to make snow shoes.
 
asking questions is how we learn ....

That doesn't work if you don't listen to peoples' answers. Especially when they are offering really, really good advice. Good luck in the arctic. I'm sure the people up there will appreciate attitude from some 18 year old who knows nothing about where they live.
 
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