Which wave model provides consistant opening?

[Seth Thomas]

I just recevied a SOCFK, my second waved Emerson behind a Cmrd BT. I love the SOCFK, it's quickly becoming my primary. One thing I've noticed is the reliable wave opening requires a slighly different angle of draw than the Cmrd. Since my eye is next on a waved CQB 7, I began to ponder:

Which of the waved models provides the most reliable opening to lock stroke, in combat mode? And Why do you feel it's optimal for you?

As a aside, Don Rearic as taught me to ignore an incomplete lock-up and lock the knife when striking. So I don't fret too much, just curious as to your experiences.

Seth

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[Don Rearic]

Not so much ignore, but train for the possibility of that happening, the knife not going into battery as you need.

On the reliability scale;

1. Commander
2. CQC-7W
3. SOCFK

Have not tried the PSARK out yet though.

As for best combat grip, I would say the CQC-7 comes in second in this list with every other one tied for first.

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[Brigadier]

Based on MY experiences, I would rank them a bit differently than Don;

1) CQC7BW, even in a weak handed reverse icepick grip from front left pocket.
2) Commander.
3) SARK(or P-SARK)
4) SOCFK

For me, the CQC7B is the easiest to set up for consistent waving. What I mean by this is the first thing I do when I get a new Emerson is I disassemble it, clean it, lube it with Militec-1, REDUCE the tension of the second ball on the blade, loc-tite the pivot screw, and then adjust tension to where I want it, and let the loc-tite set up. I find I can get a much smoother, easier, more consistent opening, both via the wave and manually, on the CQC7 than any other model. For some reason, the others tend to have their blades rub the liners if the pivot screw is too loose. Therefore, they can't open as buttery smooth as the seven without blade wobble or rubbing their liners.


The reason the SOCFK is ranked last, is because the shape of the handle pushes the pocket material out of the way of the wave hook, making it much harder to get a consistent opening. The SARKs compensate for this due to the humpback profile of their blades setting the wave further from the grip.

Hope this helps.

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Brigadier
Beretta 92 FS nut and Aspiring Usual Suspect
"And for this cause God shall send them stong delusion,that they should believe a lie;" 2 Thessalonians 2:11
"And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove[expose] them." Ephesians 5:11

 

[John Hollister]

I get to wave a lot. This last weekend I'd say I easily did hundreds of waves with every model. Front pocket, back pocket, right handed, left handed, even a couple out of the waistband (after Derek demoed it).

I have the most experience with the Commander and have that draw down. So that gets my top honor.

Having said that, the waved CQC7B rockets open, equal, if not better then the Commander. Matter of fact you should have seen my face the first time I did it full speed . . . a combination of surprise and a big toothy grin. I'd put the Mini-C right with the CQC7B. I have to get used to the smaller butt on the left handed, reverse ice pick draw.

The SARK and PSARK seem a natural to me, but I noticed that some folks had a bit of trouble waving it open. (I have no idea why, the wave really hangs up there)

The SOCFK seemed to also give people a bit of a problem, again, due to the half guard. It's all muscle memory, just a matter of getting the stroke down.

"The Wave" is so simple that 99% of the folks that had never seen or heard of it were doing it like champions after a 20 second explanation and one or two draws. I loved all the surprised looks fade into huge smiles the first time they waved a knife open.

John

 

[Brigadier]

John wrote:

"Having said that, the waved CQC7B rockets open, equal, if not better then the Commander. Matter of fact you should have seen my face the first time I did it full speed . . . a combination of surprise and a big toothy grin."

THAT'S why I carry two, both RH models, both in my front pockets. You should see the looks on people's faces when you draw TWO knives at once, clickclick, and BOTH are open when they see them.

Let's see anyone do THAT with a Microtech.

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Brigadier
Beretta 92 FS nut and Aspiring Usual Suspect
"And for this cause God shall send them stong delusion,that they should believe a lie;" 2 Thessalonians 2:11
"And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove[expose] them." Ephesians 5:11

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[Seth Thomas]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Don Rearic:
Not so much ignore, but train for the possibility of that happening, the knife not going into battery as you need.

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Don - A subtle, yet important distinction - Thanks again.

Thanks to all for your comments. I guess I'll buy the CQB 7 and see how it compares.

-Seth