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dberry

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I am trying to choose a new EDC for mainly self defense. I am stuck between a CRKT Crawford/Kasper professional model and a Blackhawk Crucible II. Which one would you choose?
 
dberry said:
I am trying to choose a new EDC for mainly self defense. I am stuck between a CRKT Crawford/Kasper professional model and a Blackhawk Crucible II. Which one would you choose?
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Self defense against what? If it's a gun you're screwed. If it's a knife I hope you know what you're doing -- take some lessons. If it's against anything less you may wind up in jail for using deadly force -- check your state laws for use of deadly force.

I'm a strong supporter of the Second Amendment, and I believe in self defense, I just think many people don't really think about the consequences of actually using a deadly weapon to defend themselves.

Now that I've given you my two cents, I would choose the Blackhawk. IMHO the blade shape lends itself more to EDC.
 
To be honest I have black belt..even agianst a knife u better know what ur doing...for self defense what about kershaw groove or skyline..flippers don't fail, good side blade..good in all weather.
 
Neither. In my opinion the Endura seriously trumps these 2 knives at this price point, and the fully serrated version seems particularly well suited for self defense. I prefer a sharp plain edge for most things but I have to admit that while the serrations don't have the finesse of a plain edge, they can cause massive amounts of damage. a knife may not be the best choice for self defense, but it is better than nothing as long as you can defend yourself well enough to retain possession of the knife. If not it will just be taken away and used against you. The reality of the situation is that if you really feel that you may need to defend yourself with deadly force (e.g. your job requires you to work in very bad areas etc.) then you should get a CCW and a compact handgun, because a pocketknife is inadequate. actually I believe a good quality pepper spray like Fox 5.3 would be better than a knife because it can engage multiple targets in quick succession and will temporarily blind attackers long enough for you to get away. search for Fox 5.3 on youtube, some funny videos haha.
 
Any limits on blade length? Assisted openers legal? Price range?

Like others have mentioned, I think you can do better for the money. The waved Endura is a great choice and I would take it over both of your choices.
 
I would take a sharp stick instead of the CRKT, so that would be the Blackhawk for me.
Of the non-listed knives, the Endura 4 wave with a fully serrated edge will cut through anything, and the wave is the fastest deployment method ever.
 
Another vote for Spyderco Endura with wave. Yes, I know that it's not one of the two knives you mentioned, but it might be something you might want to look at before deciding purchasing anything.
 
i wouldnt depend on a CRKT for SD, i have had too many lock problems with them, must say that one CRKT i have not had that issue with was the kasper pro, but i just dont trust them for SD, i really like the crawford kasper though, its a bit higher than the CRKT version though lol, i had a couple of CRKT ones then just choked up the $$ for a crawford and then also got a crawford perfigo, another great design, the kaspers do have a very secure grip, a lot better grip imho than an endura or a crucible..

i havent ever handled the blackhawks but have heard they were pretty good, kinda expensive though, for that kinda dollar imho ya could do better than either,

a spydie waved endura would be ok(though imho the grip isnt the best), as would a lot of other knives, like a BM axis AFCK, a EKI CQC12 or CQc13 or CQC8, or a spyderco Ti ATR, or even a SS ATR, the list is endless and it just depends on what you like.

imho a SD knife needs a good lock and a good secure grip, the blade steel doesnt matter a lot as ya shouldnt use the thing for anything but SD, so any decent steel will work, but a good lock and grip are must haves, imho the best grips are on emersons, on production stuff anyway, i also like the grip on the ATR's and the BM 806.
 
I personally wouldn't depend on a FRN handled knife for self-defense in any variety...I haven't seen one yet that wont flex/twist a bit under duress. Just my tiny $0.02.
 
J_Curd said:
I personally wouldn't depend on a FRN handled knife for self-defense in any variety...I haven't seen one yet that wont flex/twist a bit under duress. Just my tiny $0.02.
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have to say I disagree, cutting clothing/flesh is very easy on a knife compared to cutting wood/heavy cardboard/thick plastics/tires and some of the other things my endura has easily handled with zero flex. of course the endura 4 has skeletonized steel liners, but even the linerless Salt series would handle self defense situations with ease IMO.
 
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