while benchmade is somewhere in the clouds, chinese beat the crap out of them.

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First time seeing that Benchmade. Someone mentioned them using KVT in their pivot description. Am I to assume they have permission from KAI?
 
PURPLEDC said:
My only issue with the above knife is that they claim to use KVT. We all know this is trademarked by KAI. And while KVT is really no different than any other caged bearing system they do own the rights to the name. I dont really care that the knife is a obvious mix and match of multiple existing designs as if there is a computer program where you can copy an paste 5 pictures of different knives and it will blend them all. But they still need to change the KVT thing. Simply stating "bearing system" would suffice.






Actually one russian guy took a knife made by Adai and found their claim of S35VN was accurate as well as them using genuine titanium. They showed the tests on a youtube video being done in real time. And honestly you never know if ANY company from ANY country is using the steel they claim to be using. You take much of all of it on faith. And as far as customer service? I have yet to have a problem. I havent had to seek out help much but when I did parts were sent to me free of charge. In one case enough to make 2 fully operational knives.
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Yeah but I've seen Chinese clones marked with whatever the real deal uses and it was nothing more than a cheap Chinese stainless.

Case in point the steel on this clone is no more correct than the brand is.

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jill jackson said:
Yeah but I've seen Chinese clones marked with whatever the real deal uses and it was nothing more than a cheap Chinese stainless.

Case in point the steel on this clone is no more correct than the brand is.

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I've heard that's Carpenter's new, proprietary, CTS Dash Backslash HP Sauce steel... Very little is known of it's origin or composition.

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A friend of mine at work bought about 5 or 6 of those off eBay, for something like 15 dollars each. He gave me one for Xmas last year and the steel is decent and hard, gets sharp easy, I figure it's probably 8cr13MoV but the Chinese sure have no problem mis-labeling steel was my point. I still have ZERO fondness for the knife because it's a clone and a ripoff. But many people I know couldn't care less if a knife is a fake as long as they didn't pay much for it.
 
CVASIO, or what ever name you randomly sign up with to troll forums, throw some money into English classes with all the money you save buying China garbage. I can't understand anything you say.
 
CVASIO said:
while benchmade is somewhere in the clouds, chinese beat the crap out of them.
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I have no idea what the OP is trying to say. :confused: :foot: :confused:


What is obvious is that Benchmade is in the clouds when compared to the bottom feeders the OP seems to favor.

And the "Crap" comment? The only crap evident in this thread comes from the OP. :eek:



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Chinese > benchmade ..???? ......................... Definitely brous ripoff.
How is that conclusion made? By looks? Reading the "brochure"?
Either way........ Troll.
 
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Perhaps they asked Tony Stark for some left over Ti-Fe. :p
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Indeed. that knife looks pretty nice though. I for one am happy to see something without an Axis lock from Benchmade. They do a great job with liner locks and frame locks alike. Not every company gets it right, but Benchmade does.
 
jill jackson said:
Yeah but I've seen Chinese clones marked with whatever the real deal uses and it was nothing more than a cheap Chinese stainless.

Case in point the steel on this clone is no more correct than the brand is.

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You are 100% correct. There is a huge problem with misleading steel markings. They try to replicate everything, even the markings with little regard to what those markings actually mean. In many cases those selling the knives will attempt to disclose what steel they are really using. Like with the southard clones some are listed as D2 and others list it as some chinese alphabet steel. I would assume most are using chinese equivalents when a knife is below a certain price point. The best indicator so far has been price. Most (not all by any means but most) sellers price knives according to the materials listed. If you find a knife claiming cts204p and its $50 you know its not even close to being true. But a knife marked s35vn and selling for $140-300 in many cases is the real deal and at that point it comes down to whether that steel was properly heat treated. There are always exceptions. I have seen knives that I know for sure are not made from the listed materials being sold for wayyyy too much money. In those instances you have to look at it from an averages point of view. If 90% of the dealers selling that knife are selling it for $40 and there is one dealer selling it for $300 you can bet the farm he is fishing for a sucker. Its not that he is the one dealer who was lucky enough to have had his stock made from premium materials. The funny thing about the knife above is that they couldnt even get the name right.
 
"You also have no customer service, if you need it."
100% yes, when one is talking about benchmade.
I HAD NO PROBLEM with chinese service.
 
Yeah but I've seen Chinese clones
there is enough shit, don't need to compare with that clones, while talking about real companies, which products are selling by famous shops.
" I can't understand anything you say. "
sorry to hear that, bro. i have no spirit to learn now, sorry
"Chinese > benchmade ..???? ......................... Definitely brous ripoff.
How is that conclusion made? By looks? Reading the "brochure"? "
NO NO NO NO NO. by trying to reach ANY of BM workers, trying *MULTIPLE* times with NO positive result, is there any slight possibility for you to understand that!?
" I for one am happy to see something without an Axis lock from Benchmade. "
frame lock is definitely better than axis lock, if you saw hard-use tests peformed by vininull. 0550 beat them all. (and i myself batoned with tri-ad lock on voyager and it has vertical blade play now, while i hope to test 0550 for myself with the same terrible force to make sure it beats all locks i saw)
revdevil i saw your pm, i understood everything except what you tried to translate to lame russian.
 
Is that a fin I see cutting through the watter getting closer and closer.....

CVASIO said:
Yeah but I've seen Chinese clones
there is enough shit, don't need to compare with that clones, while talking about real companies, which products are selling by famous shops.
" I can't understand anything you say. "
sorry to hear that, bro. i have no spirit to learn now, sorry
"Chinese > benchmade ..???? ......................... Definitely brous ripoff.
How is that conclusion made? By looks? Reading the "brochure"? "
NO NO NO NO NO. by trying to reach ANY of BM workers, trying *MULTIPLE* times with NO positive result, is there any slight possibility for you to understand that!?
" I for one am happy to see something without an Axis lock from Benchmade. "
frame lock is definitely better than axis lock, if you saw hard-use tests peformed by vininull. 0550 beat them all. (and i myself batoned with tri-ad lock on voyager and it has vertical blade play now, while i hope to test 0550 for myself with the same terrible force to make sure it beats all locks i saw)
revdevil i saw your pm, i understood everything except what you tried to translate to lame russian.
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