White Box Stove review From the Becker Contest

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When Flyin’ Brian Robinson became the first to do all three long trails in the US in one calendar year, he had to have the most high tech gear on the planet. With sponsor supported research and development teams working around the clock to keep his equipment needs met. Right?……Nope, not even close. He used an alcohol stove that his dad made for him out of a cat food can. It was the lightest and most reliable way to boil water in all temperatures, conditions and altitudes. After Brian completed his amazing feat, “cat food” stoves and other variations started popping up everywhere. The one I found most interesting was the pepsi can stove. I made dozens of them and still carry one when I want to go light or want a hot meal on a day hike. Could anything be simpler or better ? Well…yes it could. Here comes the second generation of ultra light alky stoves. One that I got to try recently was not only very impressive, it just kicked the pepsi can right out of my pack.

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Compact Package. Fits in a jacket pocket.



It is the “White Box” stove, and consists of a one ounce bombproof piece of aluminum with no moving parts and nothing to replace, wear out or break. Brilliant in it’s rugged simplicity. But the thing that really sets this little stove apart from the others is this: Most all other alcohol stoves have a separate pot stand, support, rack or gizmo that you need to set up just right, tinker with and keep track of. The White Box eliminates the stand entirely. By locating the burner holes down and away from the rim, you just set the pot on top of the stove itself. This I like. KISS is a good principle when you’re a long way from the car, tired and hungry .


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The stove comes with a fuel bottle that holds enough for a weekend trip for two, an aluminum wind screen and stove base. They even include a paper clip for the windscreen. Fits together in a nifty little package that will slide right inside a mug or good sized pot. But will it boil water?


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Notice the flame pattern on the White Box. Very efficient.


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Two and a half cups of water for each.

Following the supplied instructions, I sat the stove on the base, made sure it was stable with the pot in place and filled it to just below the ring for a test burn. An alcohol flame is hard to see in bright light so be careful when you light it. If you use a match, you can hear it light and feel a little heat coming up. With the stove lit, I sat back and waited for the burner holes to kick in like a pepsi stove. Nothing.
I let it burn almost all of the fuel in the stove and the burner holes never caught. This is the only quirky thing about this little stove. I had to let the alcohol heat up a minute or so and then light the burner holes with another match. The instructions say to use HEET as fuel and all I had on hand was the straight denatured in my alcohol fuel bottle. I suspect HEET may fire the burners right up because there is no mention of having to light the burner holes separately in the instructions. I’ll pick some up and try it.


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The winner. Four and half minutes we've got a rolling boil. It maintained it for nearly 15 minutes.



With the burner holes lit it looks like a gas stove. Set a pot of water on it and watch this dude do what it does best. The best flame pattern and spacing on any alky stove out there. Started seeing bubbles on the bottom in seconds. Rolling boil in nothing flat and maintained it for nearly fifteen minutes. You can find the precise data and the bar graphs for coefficient of thermal exchange properties somewhere I’m sure, but here’s where it’s at for me: We’re talking hard boiled eggs, hot oatmeal and steaming coffee on one burn. Pasta cooked to perfection. All the hot water you could want for re-hydrating meals and a nice cup of tea to boot. The fantastic performance of this little tank far outweighs the lighting issue (if there even is one). A stove made in the USA with a lifetime guarantee for the cost of a meal at Cracker Barrel. And crank out a meal just as good or better. I like it. A shoutout to Guyon for giving such a nifty prize and White Box for the effort they put into this outstanding product.

randy
 
Definitely a nice package. I have made a similar stove out of a venom energy drink can. (I claim no original thought, copied a plan off the web...)

I have used it numerous times to boil water in a steel water bottle for tea. Definitely needs a wind screen.
 
Great review. :thumbup: Thanks for putting it up.

With the stove lit, I sat back and waited for the burner holes to kick in like a pepsi stove. Nothing.
I let it burn almost all of the fuel in the stove and the burner holes never caught. This is the only quirky thing about this little stove. I had to let the alcohol heat up a minute or so and then light the burner holes with another match. The instructions say to use HEET as fuel and all I had on hand was the straight denatured in my alcohol fuel bottle. I suspect HEET may fire the burners right up because there is no mention of having to light the burner holes separately in the instructions. I’ll pick some up and try it.

I had the same issues when first trying my White Box (the Solo), a stove that since has become a favorite piece of gear.
I'm about to make this stove indispensible for you with two words: primer pan.
After doing some reading here and there about the stove, I caught mention of the Trail Designs Prime-Lite primer pan as a way of getting a quick heat up and fast ignition of the jets.
It just plain works.

If I'd had an extra, I would have thrown one into the prize. However, I highly recommend picking one up at http://www.traildesigns.com/accessories/prime-lite-primer-pan

And look! They're on sale for a whole penny off! :p

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To add: You could probably easily make a primer pan with a can bottom.
The nice thing about the Trail Designs version is that it has the cut-out in the middle and thereby keeps your priming fuel around the base of the stove.
I just fill my stove, drip some fuel (HEET) into the primer pan around the perimeter, and light the fuel in the primer pan.
It makes a dramatic difference in how easily and how quickly the jets flare out.
IIRC, I purchased mine from Anti-Gravity Gear rather than directly from Trail Designs.

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I wish I could post up a review of a White Box prototype that Bill sent me.
I've been diligently waiting for it to appear on his site. Nothing yet though.
 
I was going to jump in and mention the high tech primer pan aka 'soup can lid' that I have used in the past.

There is also the less efficient 'dump some alcohol on the ground around the stove' method.

I typically use denatured alcohol for my little stoves.

Disclaimer - be careful with alcohol stoves - you can't see the flame in the sun. You set yourself on fire and try to put out the invisible flames on your arm with a BK9, it is explicitly not my fault.
 
The lighting issue is so minor that it doesn't bother me at all. I'm so used to fighting whisperlights and simmerlights that this thing is a joy to use. I'm astounded by the burn time. You could fry bacon with it. Honestly, once the fuel starts boiling you can dip a twig in it and touch the jets. I do like the priming pan though. Probably pick one up.
 
I haven't tried this, but you might just be able to roll up the edges on that heat shield and effectively use it as a priming pan. Worth a shot.
 
I haven't tried this, but you might just be able to roll up the edges on that heat shield and effectively use it as a priming pan. Worth a shot.

Why, hell yes it would! That's why you make the big bucks. :thumbup:
 
Guys, I made a quick video of the awesomeness of the primer pan in conjunction with my White Box Solo.
That noise you hear is the dishwasher, but you can pretend it's a waterfall next to the imaginary campsite. :D

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Nice review of the stove. They are simple to use and nothing to maintain. Another option for priming the stove is to glue a section of fiberglass stove gasket around the base. Just drizzle a bit of fuel on the wick (gasket) then fill the stove, place your cook pot on top and light up the wick. This works like a charm and you don't waste any fuel. The heat goes right to work for you:) The gasket adds a little weight to the overall package but this is a very reliable way to get the stove up and running under the most adverse conditions.
 
Nice review of the stove. They are simple to use and nothing to maintain. Another option for priming the stove is to glue a section of fiberglass stove gasket around the base. Just drizzle a bit of fuel on the wick (gasket) then fill the stove, place your cook pot on top and light up the wick. This works like a charm and you don't waste any fuel. The heat goes right to work for you:) The gasket adds a little weight to the overall package but this is a very reliable way to get the stove up and running under the most adverse conditions.

I just learned something. Thanks for this tip. :thumbup: :thumbup:
I'm going to try this modification with the stoves I make from some bottles that a gracious dude sent to me. :D
 
I like the stove gasket trick. Nice, thanks.

Guyon, is that Kitchenaid Falls I'm hearing....
 
I was just researching on you tube and saw soup can top used as a preheater.

They used a top that had been removed by one of those safety can openers that cuts around the outside. looks like a good idea.
 
So do you light the stove, then the wick / pre heater?
Or do you let the pre-heater burn up first, then light the stove?

I understand the principle (fuel is warmer and the stove is warmer, so vaporisation and blooming will occur earlier) - just confused in the order!
 
So do you light the stove, then the wick / pre heater?
Or do you let the pre-heater burn up first, then light the stove?

Daniel L, all I do is light the fuel in the primer pan. I think that's all you'd have to do with the wick that IUKE12 showed us.

Just drizzle a bit of fuel on the wick (gasket) then fill the stove, place your cook pot on top and light up the wick.
 
The White Box looks nice Tradewater. It appears you know a couple ways to make a pepsi can stove; would the White Box style be hard to replicate?
At $20(ish) it isn’t going to break the bank, but I’m kind of do-it-yourself-y when it comes to alcohol stoves. Any chance of you reverse-engineering it and posting a materials list? I’d love to take a crack at making a couple from scratch.
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