Who makes decent sheath for Talon...?

Orion

Orion

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Just got a Talon. Love the knife. I also love the concept of the sheath but have to admit it is flawed. I really like the Tek-Lok but the sheath itself leaves a little to be desired. I really like the size and shape of the sheath and everything... the only problem is that there is nothing to retain the knife in the sheath. The kydex does not lock around the handle as it should and there is no retaining strap. This makes it impossible for horizontal carry and also makes me wary of carrying the knife on outdoor trips. The knife just falls out if I turn the sheath sideways.
Does anyone make a good kydex sheath for the Talon that is high on the "retaining"scale?

Thanks-
Orion
 
Orion,
Please email me your phone # and we will see what we can do to help you. Your problem is our problem....

wfennell@rjsonline.net

The sheath should hold the knife tighter than you are describing. We want it to be right for you. Thanks for being a customer.

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Will Fennell
Camillus Cutlery
www.camillusknives.com
 
I felt somewhat similar to Orion when I first received mine, but made a slight change to the sheath that worked great for me. I drilled another hole on the side of the sheath closest to the edge of the knife, and put one of the attachment screws to the Tek-Lok through there. I drilled the hole ONLY higher enough that the parts would fit, no higher. I like to carry mine at a 45-ish deg cross draw, and this worked perfectly. With that new hole there, one of the existing holes lines up perfectly on the opposite diagonal of the Tek-Lok. If you want to carry the knife horizontally, it would take one more hole drilled. It was much easier for me to do than to get a new sheath from Camillus, but I won't get into whether it should have had the retention that Orion or I wanted when it arrived. In my case, my preferred method wouldn't have worked regardless with the holes that were there, so it is a moot point.

This is not a criticism of Camillus, just trying to suggest another way of getting what one wants, and quickly.

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iktomi
 
I also experienced the same problem. I wanted to form the sheath a little (using hot water to make it softer) but it did not work. I was not able to make it tighter.

So I also drilled another hole there and put there one extra rivet. Now it works fine and I am quite happy with it. I even got used to the Teklok device - it took me some time to figure out different carrying positions..:-) The knife itself is excellent.

David

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[This message has been edited by David1967 (edited 08-25-2000).]
 
So I guess that means neck carry would be out of the question for the Talon...or would it? (or is this knife just too big for neck carry)?

What about the custom model from Rob Simonich?

I have a Talon on the way - should get it by Monday - so I guess I'll find out soon enough!
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David, very nice!
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It's really cool how the sheath matches the carbon fiber scales.

Joe
 
Well, just got mine in this morning.. love the knife, and the sheath carry variations...but it is plagued by the same retention issues.

A tension screw (or screws - one on each side of the opening?) should do the trick, but I don't have the materials to do this to the sheath myself and make it look nice...

Seems to me that it wouldn't be a bad idea to incorporate a tension screw(s) into the design of the sheath - that technique has been employed in the hangun holster arena for years in order to adjust the retention of the holster to the users preference...

What do you think guys? Good idea? Overkill?

Thanks,

Cary
 
Will,
I am having same problem with Talon sheath - prefer to wear it horizontal cross-draw and it doesn't want to stay in the sheath. The other day I was wearing it going into the Post Office - it popped out and landed on the concrete sidewalk - got a few strange looks from other customers plus it landed on the edge. When got home later found quite a few small chips in edge - 5 or 6 passes on Spydee med. removed them so knife survived but am afraid of carrying it now. Tried to tighten up sheath with hair dryer but still won't hold. HELP!!

Bill
 
Guys,
Sorry to hear about the retention problems with your/our sheaths. We are taking this very seriously. Please call 800-344-0456 and speak to our customer service ladies. They will take your names, addresses, etc. and give you a return authorization. We will at that time go ahead and send you a new sheath and ask only that you return the old one AFTER you recieve the new one, to minimize your inconveince. We have newer sheaths from BLADE-TECH that are a good deal 'tighter' around the 'throat' of the sheath. We believe that you will be much happier. Please give us this chance to make you a happier customer. Mention this post when speaking to customer service.

Sorry for the problem,...let us take care of it for you. If you have any further problems or questions, you can contact me at wfennell@rjsonline.net .

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Will Fennell
Camillus Cutlery
www.camillusknives.com
 
Originally posted by rockspyder:
I drilled another hole on the side of the sheath closest to the edge of the knife, and put one of the attachment screws to the Tek-Lok through there. I drilled the hole ONLY higher enough that the parts would fit, no higher. I like to carry mine at a 45-ish deg cross draw, and this worked perfectly. With that new hole there, one of the existing holes lines up perfectly on the opposite diagonal of the Tek-Lok. If you want to carry the knife horizontally, it would take one more hole drilled.
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I just wanted to reiterate this, as it seems there are several people out there that have the "loose" sheaths. Note: this does not require any special materials, unless you don't already have a drill with the right size drill bit (I can't remember the size right now). If you don't have those two things, the awl on a standard Victorinox knife will work just as well, and is just the right size.

I'm not saying you shouldn't get the new sheaths from Camillus, but this will prevent any more embarrassing sidewalk encounters by anyone. And it isn't difficult to do.

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iktomi
 

Using the attachment screws may help for carry when the tek-lok is mounted up high, but it still won't help if you ever want to carry the knife with the tek-lok mounted lower - unless you have a spare screw to fit up top to use - with something that fits flush to screw it into... I would prefer a tight fitting sheath, and the ability to carry in all of the designed arrangements..

Thanks for the info..I've got a new sheath on the way - hopefully that one addresses the problem.... if there is still a problem, I'll prolly opt to attempt your solution -
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Thanks,

Cary


 
Sorry, ZZ, I hadn't thought about that. And like I said, or meant to say, I was talking more for an interim solution.

If you still have the same problems with the new sheath, there are a couple of other things you could try. But, hopefully the new sheath will hold it better.

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iktomi
 
Thanks Will! Called yesterday & new sheath is on way - this is a wonderful example of what customer service is all about - just shows what a "CLASS" act Camillus is, plus you make some darn nice "tools".

Talon was my normal daily belt carry knife until it decided that staying in the sheath was less fun than popping out without warning - the sidewalk incident was the last - previously it had happened at the tennis club at work and not many people were around, plus the floors are carpeted. Did find out that concrete & Talonite do not get along well, especially along the edge. A lot of very small chips in the edge resulted - still would cut well - have an even greater appreciation of Talonite now since a few passes on each side with medium Spydee removed them completely and it is even sharper than before. This was the first time it had been sharpened since acquisition and it had been use extensively for months. Will, it is a real credit to you & the other folks at Camillus that you undertook this project, worked with Rob to keep the attributes of his custom version and produced a superlative knife in production - not an easy task!

Thanks again for everything!
Bill
 
Originally posted by PENGUIN:
I am having same problem with Talon sheath - prefer to wear it horizontal cross-draw and it doesn't want to stay in the sheath. The other day I was wearing it going into the Post Office - it popped out and landed on the concrete sidewalk - got a few strange looks from other customers plus it landed on the edge.
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That had to be an interesting incident to happen in Northern Virginia!
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iktomi
 
Rockspyder,
Glad you are liking your Talon - it really is a nice piece - comes very close to Rob's Cetan/Wambli and the edge is as good - sucker does cut well!!!!

I was very glad that no local gendarmes were around when the Talon decided to take a flyer - I was just walking along when I heard it hit the concrete a couple feet away - 4 or 5 people were looking at me kinda funny-like as I tried to discretely pick up & resheath it - I also had a Pikuni, BM-42 Balisong, CRKT Pointguard, Pinnacle, C-48 Wegner & Military on me at the time & was on my way to pick up a Darryl Ralph Arclight neck knife - it could have gotten very weird if any cops had been around! "Officer, these are just tools I use in my job at the tennis club!" You might have been reading about me in the paper on Sunday.
Looking forward to the new sheath so I can resume using one of my favorite tools.

Could not believe how easy it was to repair the edge - hairs on my arm were breathing a sigh of relief until I restored the edge in 5 minutes.

Your reviews are great - looking forward to the updates - have not had time to do any testing myself - my opinions are based on my use at the club primarily.

Bill
 
Yep, I'm loving it. And I agree about the sharpening; the edge does come back quick. And the restored razor edge last a long time again, so it must be fairly easy to sharpen it without getting a wire edge.

Awesome knife, awesome material. I'm glad to hear that it is faithful to the Cetan design, as that one is on my list to get (well, I'm on Rob's list to get one).

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iktomi
 
Yesterday I received my Talon and a Busse Mean Street(the 3/16" one) so today I proceded to the cardboard heap to do a test. This Talon ZIPS through cardboard of any thickness. The Busse cuts ok but the Talon beats it hands down for a fast cut and edge retention. The Talon would not pop hair after the cardboard but it only took a few swipes on a loaded strop to bring it back to scary sharp. The Busse came back quickly to though.
Now, what I want to see is a little bit larger blade. Maybe 5" with a full tang micarta handle.
I AM IMPRESSED WITH TALONITE!
Oh, by the way, my sheath is kind of loose but the knife will not fall out if I turn it upside down. I carry it in a horizontal crossdraw.
Come on Camillus lets get some more models!

Ron Cassel

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Ron,
Bremerton, Washington

[This message has been edited by muzzleup (edited 09-02-2000).]
 
Will,
Just curious as to what's going on with the new sheaths that were being sent out to replace the loose originals? I called the next day after you posted with the offer to replace and its been over a week - not upset just miss being able to carry it as it is my favorite for daily carry. Have a great day!
Bill
 
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