Who the heck would pay those prices for Busses?

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I've been following Busse knives for sometime now. I've owned a few, sold a few, owned a few more, sold a few more throughout the years and I'm always shocked when I see some of the prices on the secondary market.

Perhaps I'm just overly frugal, maybe downright miserly, but I'd never pay for a Busse with a $100 markup, let alone a $300 markup, particularly for blades that are somewhat popular (meaning readily available) or were recently in production.

It's crazy to me that (a) people actually buy em at that price and (b) someone has the chutzpah to list em at that price.

I know, I know, I'm not the first person to gripe about such things, and I'm sure all you free-marketeers will reflexively quip, "A knife is worth what someone is willing to pay for it," but that doesn't in any way lessen my state of bewilderment.

Though, the more I think about it, I suppose my sticker shock is not so much a product of my frugality, but of the fact that I'm a savvy consumer of Busse knives.

In this respect, I'd like to offer some advice for those who have less experience at the trough:

1. Always buy directly from Busse, Swamp Rat or Scrapyard.

2. Remember, all Busse models come back around. It may take "2 weeks" aka a decade, but all models come back around. I remember years ago folks spending $1,000 on an A2 badger. Now one can purchase a SOB -- virtually the same knife -- for considerably less. Same holds true for SHBM and a bunch of other models (Sabre-ground SNFOs used to go for $900 bucks or more on the secondary market before they were re-released). Even when Jerry holds limited runs of certain knives and posts them as one-offs or LEs or one of a certain number, in most cases (meaning there are some exceptions) those knives or cooler custom versions of those knives come around again.

3. Consider the custom shop. While I've never personally dealt with the custom shop personnel, partly because I'm often too boozed up to dial the right digits and partly because they may be too boozed up to answer the phone if I were to correctly dial the number, I've heard great things.

4. Proxy. Hogs can't be trusted when competing at the trough. But you can trust them to do right by you as a proxy at Blade, during ganzas, or at other knife-related shows.

5. Functionally speaking, an SFNO is only marginally different than a TGLB, a TGLB is only marginally different than a SH; by that logic an AD is only marginally different than a MS, a MS is only marginally different than a GW. ETC. Point being, if you need a small Busse knife, buy what small knife they have at the store and wait until the one you really want comes along. The small knife you purchase that's currently available at the store will likely hold you over until your desired knife comes around. But by that time you may have learned to love that small, initially undesired knife a whole lot and may not actually want the initially desired knife but nonetheless you can still purchase it and compare the two yourself and make an informed decision about which is superior for yourself. Make sense? In cases where there is no small knife available at the store, buy/order whatever knife they have currently in production. This knife will hold you over until the next ganza/offering. (Also, don't forget about SW and SY knives too. A RMD is a perfect small knife, assuming you wanted a small knife to being with. Likewise, a Ratweiler is a perfect medium/large knife).

6. Research, do the 10 mins or less of research it takes to determine what the knife originally sold for. This will certainly help you to determine if the seller or dealer is a grifter.

So, there ya go. There's some free advice on how not to get taken to the cleaners when it comes to buying Busse knives.

Happy hunting.

Terry Blinski
 
Done my research but when I want something, I want it now. I'll keep my lips shut on the markup that I've paid on a few just because it will make me look really, really dumb. And I don't need any extra help with that.
 
Great tips Terry I know I wish I could've read something like that when I first jumped into the madness.

Patience definately can pay off in the world of Busse and kin but like Bobby said sometimes we just want things now! :D

No regrets though I haven't had a single regret on any of my knives over the last 2 years.
 
1. Always buy directly from Busse, Swamp Rat or Scrapyard.
It this is the only thing people take away from what you've said, they now have all the information they need. Moreover, if they put that simple suggestion into practice, it wouldn't take long for prices on the secondary market to return to reality, maybe even produce some bargains.
 
I think this post may apply to those few that purely want to find that one Busse knife that will make them happy and then never buy another Busse again. But, I don't think most of the people on this forum fit into that category. I am always trying to ensure I am not getting taken advantage of in the price department. However, I am more than willing to spend $X on a knife that may not be re-released for years down the road, that I also know I can go back and sell for that same amount or maybe a few dollars less in two weeks. I'm collecting what I enjoy and I'm not going to sit around for a millennia waiting for Busse to release a snakeskin handled figment of my imagination, I'm going to pay the guy that has one a little more than what he paid. Do my comments apply to brand new knives? Heck no. Am I going to spend $850 on an ASHBM that I can purchase for $775 direct from Busse. Again....heck...no. So, while I do see your point in theory. I don't think it applies to the majority of the sales going on here.
 
You're right, Jonathan. But people who pay outrageous prices for Busse knives on the secondary market need to look in the mirror when they wonder why the darn prices are so high and remember that they did it to themselves.
 
I dunno about the rest of y'all -- but every time I buy a knife that's marked up at least 500% -- I feel like a man!! Now I'm gonna go finish my Cranberry Lite Smirnoff Ice beverage while blasting some old Jessica Simpson tunes -- you know -- really manly stuff

P.S My Hot Pink Prius will smoke all you other Hog's rides -- you can't beat 0-60 mph in 12 seconds flat ;)
 
There are also some great Hogs that bring home extras from the various shows and sell them for only slightly more than they paid for them. My hats off to those gentlemen. I've gotten some great blades at more than fair prices thanks to them. The regulars around here are an fair and honest bunch in my experience.
 
Thanks for all of the good tips here. I have been at this a mere eight months, but by careful study, and observation of BF Exchange, eBay, etc. I have learned the $$ value of Bussekins. Like any marketplace, there exist pitfalls, and bargains. Makes for an interesting adventure. Cheers and good hunting, my friends.
 
I Completely Agree. A Perfect Example Is The Sob. I Really Wanted One Of The Prototypes, But Was Hesitant Because Of The Markup. Now I Can Order A Limited For Less Money.
 
Wow that was lots to read.


I feel your pain bro sometimes the second hand market does suck at times but its also about supply and demand. With limited supply theres always bigger demand and sometimes comes down to whos pockets are deeper when it should be anyone that wants one can get one.

But then kinda hard when a knifes a custom and very limited for everyone to have a chance.
 
You're right, Jonathan. But people who pay outrageous prices for Busse knives on the secondary market need to look in the mirror when they wonder why the darn prices are so high and remember that they did it to themselves.

:thumbup: well said.
 
There are also some great Hogs that bring home extras from the various shows and sell them for only slightly more than they paid for them. My hats off to those gentlemen. I've gotten some great blades at more than fair prices thanks to them. The regulars around here are an fair and honest bunch in my experience.

I think those guys are easily justified in doing that, too. Charge me $100 more for a knife that would've cost me $400 in airfare to go buy? Sure! That's still $300 in savings on my end.
 
I think maybe a government oversight board set up by Congress to closely monitor all BUSSE aftermarket/secondary Internet knife sales (with strictly imposed fines and penalties) on the seller would help to insure that Americans never charge other Americans "too much" for the BUSSE knife that they want.

What can I say? We either believe in the free market system or we don't.

If you believe that a seller is asking too much for a particular knife. Don't buy it from that seller. Problem solved.

If nobody buys that knife that a seller is asking way too much $$$ for then the seller will eventually either be forced to lower his asking price or he will be stuck with it.

Some folks want the knife that they want "right now" and they are willing to pay more for it. I don't have a problem with that. It's their money and not mine.

If they have the money they should be free to spend it however they want on whatever they want.

Hey, I remember people on ebay paying well over a thousand dollars for one "highly collectible" RARE Beanie Baby which is probably worth about 50 Cents right now. LOL.
 
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People aren't as stupid with their money as others like to think. If someone is willing to pay more for a knife than you think it's worth, that doesn't make them ill informed. I wish people would stop assuming everyone is getting suckered into buying overpriced knives. Who here drops $1000 on a knife without researching it first? I'd have to say the average forumite is on here BECAUSE they know how to do research. It's your average Wally World shopper that buys off the rack with no research. Why is everyone always so concerned with how others spend their own money?
 
Lotta truth in the last two posts. Purchase what you desire in a free society, and no regrets...Cheers.
 
To the poster of this thread......don't worry about how I spend what I bring home after the government takes their share of my paycheck as I dont think we don't need any knife treasury secretaries throwing discreet insults about the presumed ignorance of Busse buyers.

Also, keep in mind most folks on BF are beyond needing to buy a knife out of necessity and most people buy a Busse because they "want" it. Sure, it pays to try and be a savvy shopper with blades or anything else but that's not that profound of a concept IMO......but you know what they say about opinions.
 
I had filled each and every legitimate "need" for knives by the time I was 17 (still have and use most of those fine blades today), beyond that it has been WANT no matter how I justify it to myself. And I WANT lots.... LOL The cost is always a balance between want/price/availability/demand, and yes I HAVE paid more than I should have for a blade....but damn... I WANTED it and hav(or had ;) ) the money to do so. Do I begrudge the guys here making a few $$s over what they paid at a show, not at all. As someone said, a $100 mark up on a blade vs $ how much to go and stay at the show etc etc. But it always remains MY choice what I spend... ;)
 
Still looking for contenders to drag race against my pretty pink Prius. . . Anyone?
 
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