Who the heck would pay those prices for Busses?

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I dunno about the rest of y'all -- but every time I buy a knife that's marked up at least 500% -- I feel like a man!! Now I'm gonna go finish my Cranberry Lite Smirnoff Ice beverage while blasting some old Jessica Simpson tunes -- you know -- really manly stuff

P.S My Hot Pink Prius will smoke all you other Hog's rides -- you can't beat 0-60 mph in 12 seconds flat ;)
Eff yeah!!

We have all been on both sides of the coin if you've paid your dues here.


Remember, NO REGRETS!! Evar!!!!!

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What I dislike about this situation is that there seems to be intent to hide the markup. During a knife show, a knife gets listed at $XXX and nobody online knows what the cost was at the show. The seller doesn't disclose the fact that they've added $XXX to it. Someone buys that knife, then the next seller add $XXX+$50 more.

If you want to make a 40% markup, then look me in the eye and tell me that's what you're doing. Then I can make an honest, informed decision to buy or not buy, and we can part with a handshake.
 
It's the great thing about free markets... No one is forced to buy or sell anything. And no one must pay more than they want to pay for any given item. But someone else might.

Every item is worth exactly as much as the highest bidder is willing to pay.


The original sales price is far less relevant than the fact that the given knife may never be produced again. When supply is fixed price will rise. You cannot argue with the laws of economics.

No one forces anyone to buy anything here. I'm glad I've been able to buy several of the knives I own at higher than the original sales price. They are exceptional knives and I still find them to be a great value. :D

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What I dislike about this situation is that there seems to be intent to hide the markup. During a knife show, a knife gets listed at $XXX and nobody online knows what the cost was at the show. The seller doesn't disclose the fact that they've added $XXX to it. Someone buys that knife, then the next seller add $XXX+$50 more.

If you want to make a 40% markup, then look me in the eye and tell me that's what you're doing. Then I can make an honest, informed decision to buy or not buy, and we can part with a handshake.

When you go to a retail store, do you ask what the wholesale prices are? Why should anyone feel obligated to tell you what they paid for something? Why should that have anything to do with your decision to buy it?

Come on people. Am I the only one getting tired of the whining about prices? Why do people find a top of the line product then go online and complain about prices? It must be exhausting to go around informing the rest of the world what you think appropriate pricing should be on everything. Some people spend their time earning money while others spend their time complaining about things costing too much. I'd rather spend my time earning the money to pay for cool knives.
 
I've been following Busse knives for sometime now. I've owned a few, sold a few, owned a few more, sold a few more throughout the years and I'm always shocked when I see some of the prices on the secondary market.

Perhaps I'm just overly frugal, maybe downright miserly, but I'd never pay for a Busse with a $100 markup, let alone a $300 markup, particularly for blades that are somewhat popular (meaning readily available) or were recently in production.

It's crazy to me that (a) people actually buy em at that price and (b) someone has the chutzpah to list em at that price.

I know, I know, I'm not the first person to gripe about such things, and I'm sure all you free-marketeers will reflexively quip, "A knife is worth what someone is willing to pay for it," but that doesn't in any way lessen my state of bewilderment.

Though, the more I think about it, I suppose my sticker shock is not so much a product of my frugality, but of the fact that I'm a savvy consumer of Busse knives.

In this respect, I'd like to offer some advice for those who have less experience at the trough:

1. Always buy directly from Busse, Swamp Rat or Scrapyard.

2. Remember, all Busse models come back around. It may take "2 weeks" aka a decade, but all models come back around. I remember years ago folks spending $1,000 on an A2 badger. Now one can purchase a SOB -- virtually the same knife -- for considerably less. Same holds true for SHBM and a bunch of other models (Sabre-ground SNFOs used to go for $900 bucks or more on the secondary market before they were re-released). Even when Jerry holds limited runs of certain knives and posts them as one-offs or LEs or one of a certain number, in most cases (meaning there are some exceptions) those knives or cooler custom versions of those knives come around again.

3. Consider the custom shop. While I've never personally dealt with the custom shop personnel, partly because I'm often too boozed up to dial the right digits and partly because they may be too boozed up to answer the phone if I were to correctly dial the number, I've heard great things.

4. Proxy. Hogs can't be trusted when competing at the trough. But you can trust them to do right by you as a proxy at Blade, during ganzas, or at other knife-related shows.

5. Functionally speaking, an SFNO is only marginally different than a TGLB, a TGLB is only marginally different than a SH; by that logic an AD is only marginally different than a MS, a MS is only marginally different than a GW. ETC. Point being, if you need a small Busse knife, buy what small knife they have at the store and wait until the one you really want comes along. The small knife you purchase that's currently available at the store will likely hold you over until your desired knife comes around. But by that time you may have learned to love that small, initially undesired knife a whole lot and may not actually want the initially desired knife but nonetheless you can still purchase it and compare the two yourself and make an informed decision about which is superior for yourself. Make sense? In cases where there is no small knife available at the store, buy/order whatever knife they have currently in production. This knife will hold you over until the next ganza/offering. (Also, don't forget about SW and SY knives too. A RMD is a perfect small knife, assuming you wanted a small knife to being with. Likewise, a Ratweiler is a perfect medium/large knife).

6. Research, do the 10 mins or less of research it takes to determine what the knife originally sold for. This will certainly help you to determine if the seller or dealer is a grifter.

So, there ya go. There's some free advice on how not to get taken to the cleaners when it comes to buying Busse knives.

Happy hunting.

Terry Blinski



LOL, this thread is laughable as the other....so I really hope you all see what good sports we are here when dealing with trolls.

I hope all you whinning drive all the way to Atlanta every time you want a Coca cola because you have to have it direct and wont dare put money in anyone elses pocket.:rolleyes:


Many of you seem penny wise and a dollar foolish.


I hope you go in and raise cane at every store you buy from, and demand all the owners to divulge what they paid for the items your buying:eek:


Would you hate Jerry if you thought he paid $tens for a blade but charge you hundreds? I think not.

Do you hate the guy that makes you sheaths from pennies of plastic or leather and charges you tens and possibly hundreds?


One thing I will never understand here is makers, service providers, etc get a forum and pay hardly anything for it, and they turn pennies into $tens. Makers turn $tens into $hundreds and thousands and they get worshiped like Gods with the least amount of risk. If it was more selective and expensive for their competitors and more inviting to investors like most of the business world.


Investors or as haters call flippers etc take the absolute most amount of risk for the least percentage of profit. The investors, dealers, in many cases are willing to lay out large amounts of cash for makers to enable them to grow, put food on their tables, and sometimes even buy a new home.

The legitimate dealers also pay a lot of the expenses here, are honest and pay taxes unlike many of the hipocrits that lambash them here....you know the ones that are too cheap to even pay for platinum much less green, but they are always snagging up stuff at the show to only come back here and pretend their not selling for profit and delete all their sales threads cause they fear the tax man, and looking like they made money....chicken chits.

Hell, I praise all those that have come before me and helped pave the way to make Busse what it is today. Heck, I buy stuff in the x all the time that is marked up. Go look if you dont believe it.


I guess, some of you dont care for Jerry, Garth, Lexi, Pokey, Josh, Beef, Lora, Kendra, Alan, Waz and everyone else at Busse cause if Busse only sold what was bought for collection, or use only and not the total of us all ....Busse wouldnt be what it is today as we know it.

It might still look like the Boss behind the table by himself from long ago.

Gauranteed it wouldnt be the biggest set of booths and the show of blade. Jerry couldnt afford Fudruckers Friday night, and the bar tab later that night, much less do it all again the following night at Jock and Jills

Then you get back to the basics of economics....the reason Jerry can price blades as low as he does now is because he is able to make a lot more of them with the crew and equipment that the HOGS have provided over the years.

Anyway, its easier if everyone would learn to appreciate each others roll. Those of you that only buy one or two knives a year have no right to hate on anyone else cause you get a heck of a deal because so many spend so much more that enables Busse to be what it is....


and we will promise not to hate on you for not pulling more of your weight cause lets face it you dont generate enough to keep the lights on.


Lets drink:D
 
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Does anyone know where I can buy a Ford AC Cobra 427 for the original sales price of $5,483?


Please PM or email me. Because I really, really want one but don't want to pay more than the original price.


Thanks!

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Does anyone know where I can buy a Ford AC Cobra 427 for the original sales price of $5,483?


Please PM or email me. Because I really, really want one but don't want to pay more than the original price.


Thanks!

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Yes indeed. Make sure all of you that bought gold for $300 oz give me first crack at buying it from you now at the same price instead of todays market price of.....$1300.


Yes, I want a trip in a time machine for free and by damned you owe it to me!!!:eek:

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I'm still waiting for one of you proxies to buy me a Megladon at time traveler's prices. The fact that I haven't recieved it only means you are hiding them to mark up the price. And the day after May Day, no less. For shame.
 
me too. THats one Ive never seen:D
 
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People aren't as stupid with their money as others like to think. If someone is willing to pay more for a knife than you think it's worth, that doesn't make them ill informed. I wish people would stop assuming everyone is getting suckered into buying overpriced knives. Who here drops $1000 on a knife without researching it first? I'd have to say the average forumite is on here BECAUSE they know how to do research. It's your average Wally World shopper that buys off the rack with no research. Why is everyone always so concerned with how others spend their own money?

Agreed! buy what YOU want and makes you happy! :thumbup:

 
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WORD, buy what YOU want and makes you happy:D:thumbup:

Before I was married I spent most of my money on women, booze, knives and guns..... I wasted the rest of it.


Now that I'm married I find that it's about the same.


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It's not the over-spending that bothers me. I am, however, irritated by sellers trying to get a few hundred more than the knife is worth. If it was just introduced and quantities are limited, or it's a knife you've held onto for a while, and they're now harder to find, then I can understand justifying the higher price--heck, I even paid it when I picked up the KC'12 HG55. But when I see sellers reselling items for far more then they paid, for no real reason other than greed, it bothers me; because who's going to pay that? ...some one who shares their passion, that's who. Why would you want to overcharge some one in your own community? I just add those sellers to the ignore list.
 
Investors or as haters call flippers etc take the absolute most amount of risk for the least percentage of profit. The investors, dealers, in many cases are willing to lay out large amounts of cash for makers to enable them to grow, put food on their tables, and sometimes even buy a new home.

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Anyway, its easier if everyone would learn to appreciate each others roll. Those of you that only buy one or two knives a year have no right to hate on anyone else cause you get a heck of a deal because so many spend so much more that enables Busse to be what it is....


and we will promise not to hate on you for not pulling more of your weight cause lets face it you dont generate enough to keep the lights on.

So, do you actually have yourself convinced that Jerry wouldn't sell all his knives if you didn't scalp them?

Well, in case Jerry hasn't said so himself... Thanks! I love what you've done with the place! :D
 
So, do you actually have yourself convinced that Jerry wouldn't sell all his knives if you didn't scalp them?

Well, in case Jerry hasn't said so himself... Thanks! I love what you've done with the place! :D


Lol, I havent been the focus of these thread as Im usually one of the lowest priced sellers here. Oh, you might point at some of the knives on my site, but then not every knife there is mine, and as such I dont set the price on every knife listed as they all arent mine. The owners are only coming to a reputable dealer to help them get out from what someone else put them under.

If Im scalping there are many official dealers of other makers I wont name that start at nearly double asking price for productions. Customs can be 3-5 times higher. Most of the time Im at 25% of tag which doesnt include the taxes I was charged, the expense of acquiring, my time off etc.


The threads about the sellers from KC werent about me either as I hadnt listed anything from KC until the day before yesterday and I obviously dont have mine anywhere near $570 + 4 0r 5% paypal + shipping. Nope, that isnt me.


As, far as what Ive done with the place....Ive given away more in this forum than anyone else ever, and that sir is just a fact. I doubt anyone has proxied as many knives at cost as me either. Just saying



I tell you what. I'll bet you a brand spankin new NMFBM LE on me that you and your whining friends here in this thread can't go and add all the things youve ever given away or done for anyone here, and you wont add up to one of my giveaways, much

less the hours I spend providing specs and info on Busse knives, welcoming the new, and staying in touch with the old, dealing with trolls, hours I have spent on phone talking to those here that are not well or worse.

Im a friend to more here than you will ever know. The soldiers I have given knives too. The funds I give willing and freely. I can go on til the sun comes up but I have nothing to prove.

But I damn sure dont come on and throw stones like you and the rest. I just defend those you batter.


Im not surprised in the least that you take and snip, paraphrase something Ive said, but honestly I dont care. Its not the first nor will you be the last.


You have crossed a line though..... You have teed yourself up pretty well So we may just see if and how far you can fly :)
 
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It's not the over-spending that bothers me. I am, however, irritated by sellers trying to get a few hundred more than the knife is worth. If it was just introduced and quantities are limited, or it's a knife you've held onto for a while, and they're now harder to find, then I can understand justifying the higher price--heck, I even paid it when I picked up the KC'12 HG55. But when I see sellers reselling items for far more then they paid, for no real reason other than greed, it bothers me; because who's going to pay that? ...some one who shares their passion, that's who. Why would you want to overcharge some one in your own community? I just add those sellers to the ignore list.

Sorry if economics bothers you. But if someone decides to buy something... how is it your problem? Perhaps we need a government program? No one is overcharged if they agree to pay the price charged. It is a 100% voluntary transaction.


So, do you actually have yourself convinced that Jerry wouldn't sell all his knives if you didn't scalp them?

Well, in case Jerry hasn't said so himself... Thanks! I love what you've done with the place! :D

I've been around here for quite a while and been lucky enough to get in on the knives I want most of the time. Sometimes I don't. I've always been thankful for friends like Knifehunter that have been able to help a brotha out when I 'need' a knife that I don't have. I think you newbies don't have a clue what really goes on inside this forum. I'd welcome you all to stick around a while, perhaps you will find out. Calling people "scalper" or other names will not garner you respect or affection... I assure you. We don't do that here.

The socialist pinko commie mentality around here makes me sick! :mad: If this is an attack on people who make profit, it is also wrong for BUSSE to make profit? Does anyone know of a non-profit knife maker?



LONG LIVE CAPITALISM!!!!!

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Getting tiresome of this renewed trend of picking on purveyors, those who take the time, and pay the expenses to attend shows to, yes...buy knives. To resell. At a profit as hoped. Welcome to America.

It ain't cheap to attend a show like, say BLADE. Rooms run just about $200 a night at the Waverly, plus cost of flight (add cab fare, $60 one way from ATL airport) or drive...plenty of cash spent just to get there, plus possible shipping expenses to get knives home, plus the aggravation of either flying or driving plus meals, tickets, cab rides, other incidentals...Am I forgetting anything? I figure that just for me, it's at least $1500 in expenses before I even buy a knife at that show. Make no mistake, the hotel, convention center and all local restaurants & bars down there in Atlanta see us coming, and they know we brought cash...they're in it for the profit even more than most purveyors. If it were my business to sell knives, just to break even on the trip with 15 knives plus expenses, I'd have to add another $100 to each. 30 add $50, etc.

Now while some dealers/purveyors do have some really unreasonable mark up (no reason to name names here), T is one of the fairest I've yet to do a deal with. In addition, he gives back to the community...pretty heavily, I might add...he loves & respects the hobby, he uses the knives. He proxies, he volunteers, he's a true HOG.

So, you don't want to buy from purveyors but you want a specific limited run knife from some maker at a show at show price? Call out of work, book a flight, get a room and go for it. Oh...and don't forget to bring lots of cash. ;)
 
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