Who wants a Mnandi???

RGRAY, I was trying to say, not well it appears, that a modicum of moderation could be applied when these types of posts arise. As he knows he shouldn’t and I guess with that knowledge he certainly got what he deserves. It's just the tone in which it was done that I was concerned about, his responce was just returning tit for tat type of thing...no one wins that game.

Now I don’t know Toolin nor have ever before contacted him, but you are right that I was one of them that did email him at the very outset to take it slow and to not get worked up over your post, trying to be a calming factor. But I failed I guess, since once a pissing match starts it doesn’t ever end well.

RGRAY, I’ve never met you either, but I do hope that you stay well and let these things not effect you so. Life’s too short to take such things with so severe an attitude.

Toolin, I’ve not met you as well, and you should be a lot more courteous when using a forum that someone else has created with sweat and blood and money….

Spark, I know you had to do what you saw fit and it is your Forum and make the rules.

I hope everyone has a Great Thanksgiving and like to thank all of you guys and gals on the forum.
Take care,
G2
 
Originally posted by Gary W. Graley
RGRAY,...

Now I don’t know Toolin nor have ever before contacted him, but you are right that I was one of them that did email him at the very outset to take it slow and to not get worked up over your post, trying to be a calming factor...

RGRAY, I’ve never met you either, but I do hope that you stay well and let these things not effect you so. Life’s too short to take such things with so severe an attitude...
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Gary,

Who the he!! are you to try to be a calming factor and tell him not to get worked up over my post? :rolleyes: :mad:

It look's like your e-mail encouraged him.

You could have posted instead of e-mailing him (that appears sneeky).

I am not as easy going as you and I especially dislike it when someone says, "I know I am doing wrong but I'm going to do it anyway."

These things do effect me and you shouldn't worry about me.
 
Originally posted by RGRAY


Gary,

Who the he!! are you to try to be a calming factor? :rolleyes:

Do you want to be a Moderator?
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Rick, I think you have crossed the line from concerned member of the forum to overwrought "keeper of the flame". Gary has never been anything but friendly and helpful to any and everyone on these forums. Your status as moderator doesn't give you licence to be rude.
 
James,

I edited the Moderator line before your post.

Where does Gary get the right to e-mail Toolin to not to get worked up over my post?

When needed I was rude before I was a Moderator; I haven't changed.

Don't you think Gary should have mined his own business?

IMHO, Gary trys to be too friendly.

I didn't see you e-mailing Toolin?
 
I admit, I am kinda' slow; but what just happened here ???????
Somebody please email me w/ a concise summary. I would greatly appreciate it. :)
Thanks,
 
man what a can of worms

RGray, you are correct in the fact that rules need to be followed.

however your remarks were uncalled for in the situation.
 
Hermie,

I don't see the can of worms.

You are entitled to your opion, but who are you to say my remarks were uncalled for in the situation?

I guess I'm not as easy going as you either, but everybody can't be easy going.

Spark banned the guy and didn't say my remarks were out of line.

Sorry guys!
 
Looks as though one doesn't have to go far to find contempt (or a fight)on this forum:( Every one bow down and kiss the ring.
 
Where does Gary get the right to e-mail Toolin to not to get worked up over my post?
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Um, I believe Gary and Toolin are big boys, and they are "allowed" to establish communications outside of the forums. Are you suggesting that Gary and Toolin should have obtained your permission first before discussing anything related to you? :confused:

When needed I was rude before I was a Moderator; I haven't changed.
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Fine, but rudeness is not needed at this point.

Don't you think Gary should have mined his own business?
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Maybe. Maybe not. But these forums are PUBLIC, and hence, it becomes everybody's business. G2 just chose to act.

IMHO, Gary trys to be too friendly.
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IMHO, you take things too personally.

Shheesh.... :rolleyes:
 
It looks like we are getting off subject now and I have nothing more to say.

I would like to apologise to the Reeve's that this had to be in their forum.
 
Rick, chill out. As a matter of fact, everyone chill out. There's no need for rudeness from anyone.

Let's not make this anything more than what it is - Toolin decided, for whatever reason, that the rules didn't apply to him, and even though he knew it was wrong, decided to sell his knife outside the for sale areas. He was banned as a result.

Heavy handed or not, there are rules to follow here. If I'm going to let this happen "just this once" then I have to let the floodgates wide.

I prefer the simpler approach - no special treatment. If you want to sell, you sell in the for sale forums, otherwise you don't sell here at all. I shouldn't have to explain this to anyone here.

Toolin was banned for a very valid reason. I don't care if he had one knife to sell or 100 - he used the forums to help himself without turning around and helping us stay open. Instead of supporting this behavior, how about self-policing posts like this and discouraging them when they do show up?

Kevin
 
Toolin got three warnings. You can all see the warnings and his responses to them. Rick might have been gentler, but clearly even three ungentle warnings were not sufficient to get the message through to Toolin. Then he tried to evade the ban by opening a new account -- and when we banned that identity he tried it again (and we banned that one too). He still hasn't made any effort at conciliation -- he could still email Spark or Rick or me. Surely it must be clear to everyone he did not violate the forum rules by mistake or out of ignorance. IMHO he has nothing to complain about, and it's not easy to understand why anyone else would complain on his behalf....
 
Spark & Cougar -

I have no problems with the banning of Toolin or his alter egos from the forums. Toolin was pretty blatant and in-your-face about the whole thing. As has been pointed out, the worst part is that he freely admitted he knew he was in the wrong.

What I'm trying to get across here is that there isn't a whole lot of support for Toolin's actions here; just support for Gary who merely suggested an alternative way of doing things and was slammed in the process. Whether or not anyone agreed with Gary's suggestion is irrelevant; he didn't deserve to be slammed.

Matthew
 
RGRAY . . . As a moderator, you have no occasion to be rude but rather to be calm and deliberate in your actions. IMHO, your signature says it all; and you have a tendency to come down rather hard on those of us who are merely Basic members. In this case, you attempted to stomp G2 who has nothing but respect from a very large percentage of BF people. Think about it . . . :rolleyes:
 
IMHO, a moderator should exhibit a certain amount of self-control, as an example to the rest of us in the unwashed masses(Basic Members and non-moderator types). Authority carries with it responsibility.
I have no sympathy for Toolin; he blatantly disregarded the rules, and he suffered the consequences. But to jump on Gary for simply e-mailing the man with some advice seems to me to be behavior that a moderator ought not indulge in. I normally don't get in on these kinds of squabbles, but I have come to respect Mr. Graley for his demeanor and insights, even though I have never personally communicated with him.
Ther is too much rudeness in the world anyway.
 
CHILL OUT!!!!!! You guys are too much....Jeeeeeezzzzzzz....this thing is for fun and the pursuit of recreation. Not for tearing each other to pieces:(

Later, JC
 
I read through two pages of back an forth regarding a guy that broke the rules, Toolin. He should have been banned. He blatantly broke the rules. It would seem to me you could bounce the rule breaker quickly and quietly without bashing the folks that make this a place a great place to visit. I can deal with rude, I have 37 years of dealing with rude but I choose to use this forum for relaxation and knowledge gain that's why I spent the money to be a Gold member. I don not sell stuff I support the forum. I like it here and hope this incident is an anomaly.
 
If you stopped acting like a 12 year old for at least 30 seconds, you might be able to see that no one is saying that Tool didn't get what he deserved. They're saying that, as usual, you are taking things way too personal. I don't care enough to go dig up the specific posts or names, but this reminds me of one of the other times you acted like a 12 year old. Some dealer was selling Reeve's knives for more than Reeve sold them for on his site, and you once again took it way too personal. You saw fit to butt in on all of his posts, even ones that had nothing to do with selling knives, and "save" everyone from this evil dealer. And you have the nads to ask why Gary doesn't mind his own business.:rolleyes: You got your head handed to you by the membership then, and it looks like you still haven't learned your lesson. How a whiny little bratt like you got to be a Moderator is one of life's great mysteries.:rolleyes: :confused: and :barf:

Jim McCullough
 
I don't care enough to go dig up the specific posts or names
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but you do care enough to dig this sucker up after three weeks for no reason?

I'm in no position to judge, especially after showing a very thin skin over the weekend, but it would be best to let sleeping dogs lay.
 
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