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Alright my dad would not let me get a new balisong. He doesnt know i already have one, but i want a like non cheap one. So i wanted to buy the Pacific Style Trainer from knifezilla.com Well him being stupid said, "NO". Now heres where the trickery comes in. My teacher is making me write a I-search on somehting. So im going to do balisong info/techneic. Well i tell him, How can i give a good report when i have no first hand expirence? So hes gonna let me get it.! HAHA i win! Oh yeah anyone know a trustworthy site to get a Pacific Style Trainer cheaper then 20 bucks? TEll me if you cant understand ok?
 
LOL, you really DO NOT win. You have achieved the means to an end thru deceit. The man you have been less than honest with is YOUR DAD. I will share with you a DAD's perspective: I would be very HURT by what you are doing. It is simply not right. I expect, NO I DEMAND, a bond of trust between myself and my two sons. I am a man of reason. There is a right way to approach this and a WRONG way. This LOL, is NOT the right way.
Sit down with Dad. Have a heart to heart. EXPLAIN to him your serious interest in knives. Invite him to read some of the threads here, look at many of the photo's. ASK Dad to E-mail one of the BIG GUNS on BFC for some help on formulating a JUDGED opinion.
Your Dad did BUY your line, so I can assume he is a REASONABLE Man. LOL, you NOW be the REASONABLE, HONEST and TRUSTED son and repair the DAD-SON bond ASAP. I bet the outcome is MUCH happier for both.......wolf
 
I'm sure we all appreciate your honesty as you posted it LOL. And you wouldn't have brought this little story to the forum if you didn't want some honest opinions and comments about what you're doing.

I have news for you. You'll never be smarter than your Dad. You may outsmart him because he's not 'all knowing' but in the end you only outsmart yourself. Get a grip on honesty in dealing with people now or you'll have problems all your life. The Wolfman was right on. Do the right thing and bring your Dad back into the loop and live with the consequences. You will earn his respect and most importantly you'll learn to respect yourself.

Knives are a great thing but deciet will ruin your life. I'm sure we'd all like to know what you decide to do. Good luck.
 
Originally posted by LOL
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Oh yeah anyone know a trustworthy site to get a Pacific Style Trainer cheaper then 20 bucks? TEll me if you cant understand ok?
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It's funny that you mention Trustworthy in an attempt to deceive your Dad. You're not a man, you're a boy and your Dad can't trust you. :rolleyes:
 
The desire for a new knife can feel pretty overwhelming, but I can promise you that decieveing someone to get it will ruin it for you...or at least it would for me.

Recently, I myself considered ruining the trust my wife has in me, just to get a new knife I had talked myself into thinking I just had to have. Thankfully, I realized it just was not worth it, for any reason. I did go ahead and post about it here, for some unknown reason, and recieved some good advice about what not to do.

Do the right thing, clue your dad in, and you'll have something to really be proud of and you'll most likely earn quite a bit of respect from him as well.
 
Originally posted by LOL
I AM!

Alright my dad would not let me get a new balisong. He doesnt know i already have one, but i want a like non cheap one. So i wanted to buy the Pacific Style Trainer from knifezilla.com Well him being stupid said, "NO". Now heres where the trickery comes in. My teacher is making me write a I-search on somehting. So im going to do balisong info/techneic. Well i tell him, How can i give a good report when i have no first hand expirence? So hes gonna let me get it.! HAHA i win! Oh yeah anyone know a trustworthy site to get a Pacific Style Trainer cheaper then 20 bucks? TEll me if you cant understand ok?
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Don't worry about what they say LOL. Now you have a sure answer when someone asks you what the Most Expensive Knife You Ever Bought. It won't matter how many $1000.00 customs you buy, none will cost you more thanthis toy.
 
I disapprove of dishonesty even if it saves your life (and I know how bali addictions seem). What I recommend is that you do some research on balis like your are supposed to anyway and make a report for your father as well as your teacher. At any rate I'm not here to judge keep on keeping on.
 
LOL, I don't hang out at your house so I don't know if your one of those bratty a$$ spoiled kids that has crappy parents that let you do anything. Or if you have a good dad that can listen to reason. I'm gonna write this as if you are the latter but I suspect by your tone that you are the former if nothing else but to play a little devils advocate to the others.

To the others that posted: if we assume (and we know what happens when we assume) that LOL's dad is not a complete moron then he saw through this about as quickly as we did and simply reconsidered. He noticed that his kid really did want one and was gonna actually do some work, remember that he is gonna do reasearch and a paper) to show how much he really wanted it. if that is the case then LOL didn't lie.

LOL: you're not the man. don't think for a second that you have outsmarted your pops. you don't think he's been a kid too? I've been there and done enough that I know my son doesn't have a prayer of pulling the wool over my eyes when he gets your age. (hell i'm still doin it)
 
You have forever broken the bonds between you and your father, and the emotional scars shall never heal. Or maybe you're just a kid who's trying to get over on the old man for a simple trinket, like every kid in the history of mankind. Now, don't you grow up and tun into some hardened criminal.:p
 
LOL, things like trust and respect have to be earned not commanded or gained thru deception. Go to your Dad and tell him what you've done. you will earn his respect and he may find you trustworthy enough to let you get the knife. Family is more important than a knife or anything material. I know how it is, boys will be boy's. stop being a boy and be a man about this. a man of honor.Do the right thing and it will work out. Hope this helps. I'm a father myself. Good luck.
 
i was,up until a year and a half ago,in your shoes.
betraying your father is not the way to get knives.


talk to him,explain your 'fascination', explain that knives arent just for killing and stabbing...show some responsibility around the house,do your chores,etc..

my parents werent happy when i first got hooked on knives...though they never told me i couldnt.
my first 'real' knife was a kershaw whirlwind,i paid 30 bucks for it...they wanted to know why i spent so much on a knife,now they just roll their eyes when a knew one shows up.

follow the advice of everyone that has spoken here.you will come out WAY ahead this way,instead of sneaking around,both in collecting,and in your relationship with your father.

-mo.
 
Wait a minute!

How do we know that LOL tricked his dad? Perhaps his dad wasnt born yesterday, and he tricked LOL into getting his homework done. Lets give the dad the benifit of the doubt. :)
 
Stupid? You ever stop to think that maybe balisongs are illegal where you live? They are here. Maybe your dad is simply not wanting you to break the law. The roads around here were designed for 70 miles per hour. My car will hold 70 mph no problem. Do I drive 70? No. Does that make me stupid? No, it keeps my rear end out of a sling with the local law enforcement.

But hey, evidently you are the MAN, so don't listen to me. I'm just a dad.
 
If your Dad is not the type to blow a gasket, just go to him and tell him that you came up with this idea so that you could get a balisong. It is quite likely that he knows this already, but it would make him feel a lot better knowing you thought enough of him to set things straight.

I am not judging you, I was your age once myself and I was no angel. I know for a fact that I did worse. It seems that whenever I think about the things I did that I always regret what was done. It is strange that after all these years I still feel like such a schmuck for the things I did and if I could go back and change them I would in a second.
 
im sad now =(

Anyways my dad is just ignorant, he calls it a toy (the trainer) yet he wont let me buy becuase its to dangrous.

He is just being stubborn, he will let my mom order it and then bring it to his house. But my mom being ignorant as well thinks a butterfly knife is a fishing knife with a really big serated blade used to gut fish.

My dad dosent understand many things so ge gets mad. Im not rich neither am i poor, maybe middle class. He spoils my sister though, if i breathe her air he yells at me. He also forgives really quick when i was little hed yell at me id go to my reoom for litterly no more then 10 seconds shout down, "if i say sorry can i come down?" he says yes so i say sorry then hes not mad! Well hope that cleared it up.
 
Yah, my dad knows i think. I cant really describe how i know. Also agian its a trainer, he calls it a toy( we went to the 99 cent store becuase they had some, i thought maybe they had a trainer) He says, do you have any toy butterfly knifes? Then he turns around and call it dangrous. ill add more later when i think about it.
 
Funny how Dad knows 'everything' when we are very little...
Funny how Dad starts becoming dumber as we get to middle school and is totally ignorant by 9th grade....
Funny how Dad becomes smart again when you hit your mid-20's
Not so funny when you wish your Dad was around to give advice when your are in your late 40's

It is very easy to decieve someone who trusts you. Not so easy to regain that trust once violated.

No judgement here...just my slant on one part of life.

md
 
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