Whos the man?

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Originally posted by Michael Dye
Funny how Dad knows 'everything' when we are very little...
Funny how Dad starts becoming dumber as we get to middle school and is totally ignorant by 9th grade....
Funny how Dad becomes smart again when you hit your mid-20's
Not so funny when you wish your Dad was around to give advice when your are in your late 40's

It is very easy to decieve someone who trusts you. Not so easy to regain that trust once violated.

No judgement here...just my slant on one part of life.

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im sorry =( im just a kid but i think he knows

he goes "i think you just want the balisong" i mean also hes unorthadox. he calls it a toy yet he says its to dangrous.?
 
I'm in the process of raising 6 kids, and have had slow but damn good returns. I thought I had a helpful response until your last post there son. LITTLE HELP.
 
I am glad that this thread is a very civil one!

LOL, here's what I suggest: write your report, and give your father a copy to read. Maybe then he'll understand where you are coming from. Do a good job on your paper. A REAL good one, so your dad sees you get an A+. If your teacher writes a lot of positive comments, that will be good too. Maybe then your father will understand and let you get a trainer, and then maybe a benchmade balisong.

Oh, there's another tip. Call them balisongs. "Butterfly knife" probably reminds your father of a '50s gang weapon.
 
Honesty is the best Policy, tell your father the truth. Someday all your untruths will catch up with you.

Also put yourself in your Fathers position, now think of the dishonesty being told to you. I ask you would you trust ?


Now flash forward a few years TO YOUR OWN KIDS:(
 
I'm probably not that much older than you (if at all... I'm only 17), but here is my advice.

It ain't worth it to hide your hobby from your parents. Up until a couple years ago, my parents hated my knife collecting hobby and I had to hide it from them. I did a couple really bad things to trick them just so I could continue collecting, and it took a lot of work to earn their trust again after they found out how I had been tricking them. If I had thought about the consequences before doing those things, I never would have done it. It's easy to get bad credit, but it's very hard to earn people's trust.

The best thing for you to do is just be upfront with your parents and tell them that its a normal hobby, and its not dangerous. After I explained it to them and stopped trying to trick them, they didn't mind my hobby as much. Fast forward a couple years... I spend most of my weekend time working on making knives. My dad bought me a belt grinder for my birthday and they think my knife hobby is actually pretty interesting now.
 
LOL, I hear you Son, I FEEL your pain, anger, and HURT. But, to prolong it, to maintain it, to REPRESS it shall consume your very being.
Many have HAVE walked THAT MILE in your shoes. While I can only make assumptions, and you KNOW what that makes me, I can simply pass this on to you.

In LIFE, you get back TEN-FOLD what you give. You shall one day look in the mirror of life and look at the reflection of who and what you are. There is NO chance to start anew when that day arrives. NOW is your chance to Start a beautiful reflection of yourself. The path to great intentions IS paved in Gold, but the gold can NEVER be spent........wolf;)
 
Originally posted by Chang
I'm probably not that much older than you (if at all... I'm only 17), but here is my advice.

It ain't worth it to hide your hobby from your parents. Up until a couple years ago, my parents hated my knife collecting hobby and I had to hide it from them. I did a couple really bad things to trick them just so I could continue collecting, and it took a lot of work to earn their trust again after they found out how I had been tricking them. If I had thought about the consequences before doing those things, I never would have done it. It's easy to get bad credit, but it's very hard to earn people's trust.

The best thing for you to do is just be upfront with your parents and tell them that its a normal hobby, and its not dangerous. After I explained it to them and stopped trying to trick them, they didn't mind my hobby as much. Fast forward a couple years... I spend most of my weekend time working on making knives. My dad bought me a belt grinder for my birthday and they think my knife hobby is actually pretty interesting now.
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woha THAT was pretty DEEP! lol. Also my dad isnt like the never get trust agian peson. Ill do something bad hell get really mad the next day hell call me sweety and make me bagels agian!
 
LOL, THINK about what you just posted. So maybe Dad has a short fuse and could use some anger management. Maybe he too has some very deep-seated anger that builds and builds and he pops his cork BEFORE his brain catches the gear. Then, the clutch engages, his tires spin and he THINKS and then that heart, MAYBE coated with some scar tissue shines THRU!!!!!!!:D :D
So, The man DOES have a Heart. he yells, spews venom and barks like a junkyard dog. But I have yet to see you post That he follows thru with a BITE, so I percieve this as HIS defense mechanism because of some unresolved issues (That LOL is an ASSumption!!!).
LOL, I DO NOT have your answer. But, MAYBE You do. I sure as Heck KNOW that somewhere here on this Forum, there is SOMEONE who has the "Magic" answer. LOL, SEEK and he SHALL find.....
Go in Peace, this time you started to sound like a MAN;) ;) Ira
 
There is the law of the school and there is the law of the farm.

The law of the school says that if you cheat, you get better results (i.e. grades).

The law of the farm says that if you cheat with sowing you will not have any crop to reap.

LOL, it seems to me you are using the law of the school in your relationship with your father. However, it's my belief that in ALL important matters in life, the law of the farm governs.

Just my .02

Overgaar
 
Given your own description of your father -LOL-.., it seems highly unlikely he is going to prohibit you from having what you want anyway???? If he gets angry with you and then changes gears consistently.., why not just be totally honest, not risking the "debt" of dishonesty?

Parents tend to remember being deceived for a loooooong time..., simply human nature. It sounds to me like your dad may not exactly speak your "lingo" at this time of your life, but just sit down and talk it over with him.., giving concrete examples of why you want what you want..., instead of playing the "power struggle" garbage and damaging the relationship.

The manner is which you speak about your parents is bothersome to me. During various parts of your posts, you refer to them as "dumb".., "not able to understand"..., and "ignorant", when there are far more respectful terms to use. While it's certainly not unusual to have those thoughts about authority figures when you are young.., it is another thing to post them in a Forum of strangers. If you stop to think about it.., it reflects far more poorly on your character, than that of your parents.

I'm guessing your parents have supplied you with a safe place to live, food, probably the computer you are using to insult them publicly, and an unmeasurable amount of support in various forms you don't yet recognize.

Maybe you should just stop typing for a while.., and consider the total spectrum of their stupidity vs. your own.., and maybe turn over a new leaf?? ~~> Or maybe grow a whole new plant???

I hope this all works out for yourself and family.., but it sounds like the problem runs a bit deeper than your knife of choice...

Take care!





"Hunters seek what they [WANT].., Seekers hunt what they [NEED]"
 
A father is usually smart enough to know if his child is responsible or not. If your father feels that you shouldn't have a Balisong, then that is the law. He knows you better than anyone on the forums do. From the way you write your posts, I'm guessing that you are fairly young and you don't seem to care much about rules(grammer at least.) You already tried to break his rule of "No Butterfly Knives" so why should he trust you to not break any other rules if you do get one. I'm not sure if I'm correct, but I think I recall you saying you would use your knife to impress the ladies. http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=177712

You also went on to state you didn't care much about grammer, and that you'd throw your knife.

The Balisong knife has gotten enough bad press in it's time and personally, I have to agree with your dad and say that you shouldn't have one. Just from what I can tell about you on the forums from your bad grammer to the irresponsible actions that you have already told us you will do with the knife, I am afraid to say that you are the type of person that gives the Balisong such a crappy reputation.

Aslo, don't think that it has anything to do with age because over in the Balisong forum we have had 14 year olds making very intelligent post and using perfect grammer. They have come in and asked "I am really interested in the Balisong but my parents said no. What is the best way to show them that it is not an evil weapon, but rather a sturdy useable knife." Those are the people that are most likely responsible. They care to show their parents about the knife before getting it, rather than trying to sneak one it or con their parents into buying one for them.

I cringe almost everytime I hear a preteen/young teen mention the words "Butterfly Knife" because almost every time, they begin to talk about how cool it is to show it off to their friends and how they want to bring it to school.
 
Alright im not the punk kid. Id only use it around the house. I would not give it a bad rap... trust me im one of those kids who wont kill that big scary spider even if there afraid of them simply becuase i beilve everything only has one life. Im very gentle. AND Ive never thrown it. I think my dad knows. For another thing the only reason i didnt ask some good tips to help parents think better of balisong knifes, is becuase ive already read a few of those topics, enough to get many many ideas. And ive already tried that ive told my parents everything. Like how butterfly knifes are used in the least crimes compared to everyother knife out there. (just something i heard a forum goer say).
 
Balilover, I think you are right about reading how responsible people are from looking at their grammar, and use of words.

I think you should read this thread:

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=178344

I am 18 years old, last time I bought a knife, I asked dad what he thougt about different models. Not because he would deny me to buy a real "killing" knife, but he would absolutely tell me what he meant about it.
I got a CRKT urban shark, because I thought the sleek lines made it sheeple friendly.. Wonder what i had ended up with if i didnt discuss it with dad??

Balisongs are banned here in Norway, so i try to not think of them too much.
I flip open my Leatherman like a bali, but i guess it's not the same...
 
LOL, AFTER what you have written concerning your actions, you WANT us to TRUST you????????:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Son, No let me correct myself, Boy, GROW UP:mad: You may NOT be a punk kid, but you sure are acting LIKE one:p wolf
 
People like "LOL" are further proof that children should not have unsupervised access to computers.

I've got news for you, little boy: you are a "punk kid."
 
Originally posted by Razoredj
People like "LOL" are further proof that children should not have unsupervised access to computers.

I've got news for you, little boy: you are a "punk kid."
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rofl, why am i a punk?
 
Because you are laughing STUPID:mad: :mad: THINK for a second, will ya? Re-read this ENTIRE thread from your VERY FIRST post.
WTF, little one, you think this is funny????:eek: :( :( :( wolf
 
if i wrote a report about a knife at my school i'd get expelled.. you look at a website about weapons you are expelled... you talk about weapons you are expelled... ha my school sucks
 
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