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Why are all the mid-tech knives I see framelocks?

Razdrazchelloveck

Razdrazchelloveck

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I can't stand framelocking or linerlocking knives. But my tax return will be here soon and I really think it's about time I get a midtech. I have been into knives for about ten years now and have a rather large collection, the most I have spent on one knife was 200 for a Benchmade Bedlam.

Anyhow, to get to the point, all the most popular midtech knives are framelock: CRK, Strider, and most Microtechs.

I like Microtechs designs most, and strider. I never see myself ever purchasing a CRK. But why aren't there any lockbacks, or other type of folder? This has been the biggest thing preventing me from purchasing midtech knife.

Can someone explain why pretty much all midtech knives are framelocks?
 
Well known geometry and people seem to like them right now. Also with the emphases on one hand open the frame /liner lock allows for 1 hand close too. My .02$.
 
Personal taste. I have nothing against the knife. I just find that I can get the same fit and finish with better steel by purchasing a Taiwan made Spyderco. Then again, I have never held one, so that could be subject to change, but for now I hold that position. I think it may mostly be that the ergonomics look terible and it just doesn't look appealing to me whatsoever. I think Striders look very sexy though.

Anyways... Can anyone come up with a non-framelock?
 
Razdrazchelloveck said:
Personal taste. I have nothing against the knife. I just find that I can get the same fit and finish with better steel by purchasing a Taiwan made Spyderco. Then again, I have never held one, so that could be subject to change, but for now I hold that position. I think it may mostly be that the ergonomics look terible and it just doesn't look appealing to me whatsoever. I think Striders look very sexy though.

Anyways... Can anyone come up with a non-framelock?
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You need to hold one to understand. Even Sal Glesser concedes his knives don't hold to the tolerances of CRK so I don't know where you get that.
 
Framelocks are very popular, there is a large collection of easily-available wisdom on how to make them, the lock design is not patented and you can almost entirely eliminate blade play in a well made framelock. Backlocks or midlocks are, I think, perceived as old-fashioned or less desirable and even many very well made backlocks have a bit of vertical bladeplay. That's my guess, at least. Personally, I'm excited about the midtechs that will hit when patents on things like the Axis and Compression lock expire.
 
How about a Gold Class Benchmade Griptilian? Carbon fiber handles and M4 tool steel blade. Awesome Axis lock.
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Razdrazchelloveck said:
Personal taste. I have nothing against the knife. I just find that I can get the same fit and finish with better steel by purchasing a Taiwan made Spyderco. Then again, I have never held one, so that could be subject to change, but for now I hold that position. I think it may mostly be that the ergonomics look terible and it just doesn't look appealing to me whatsoever. I think Striders look very sexy though.

Anyways... Can anyone come up with a non-framelock?
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Go troll somewhere else.
 
Also, I believe Bronks Knifeworks offers some midtechs with the Xross lock. Sort of a hybrid of the Compression and Puzzle locks.
 
mmarkh said:
You need to hold one to understand. Even Sal Glesser concedes his knives don't hold to the tolerances of CRK so I don't know where you get that.
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That's pretty much exactly what I said. Either way, I find the design and framelock repulsive.

Anyhow, I checked out William Henry, but does he seriously need to put jewls an all of his knives?

Basically what I want is: A Strider or Microtech that isn't a framelock. I may just get a Microtech otf.
 
Because it's not proprietary, simple to produce and popular. Good candidate for the overbuilt trend. Although theres people who think the lock shouldnt be on hard use labeled knives. It's sufficient for my tasks which only involves cutting I dont hammer my knives and throw it in volcanos to see what happens to it.
 
Look at the EDC series for William Henry they come with just a wood, silver twill, or carbonfiber inlay, no jewels. There is also the CRK Ti-lock it has a totally different style of lock.
 
mmarkh said:
What is midtech?:confused:
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Well Microtech, CRK, and Strider are production knives, high end production and not midtechs. A midtech is like a custom maker who is having one of his designs sent out and cut out with water jet or CNC and have most of the frames done and then he does the fit and finish and usually grinds most of the blades. There are different definitions but the 3 companies I listed are not considered midtechs. One example that is popular right now and I can not wait to get is the Jake Hoback Kwaiback midtechs.
 
I always thought CRK's, Striders and Hinderers were midtechs. Pretty sure they are. Custom makers have midtechs too like Les George's VECP.
 
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