Why are knife people conservative?

fulloflead

fulloflead

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Reading the forum, I get the impression that most of the people on here are very conservative. Why is that?

Myself, I'm about 60% liberal, so I call myself a Liberal.

I do knives and guns. On the gun forums I expect it because of gun control. About 90% of the people on the gun forums are conservative. (Yes, I've met a few Liberals on the gun forums and QUITE a few people who consider themselves Moderates.)

I work at a company that's about 90% conservatives and when I whip out a big knife to open a package the conservatives are just a likely to ghasp and say, "What do you need that big thing for? Are you planning on killing somebody?".

Is it simply because knives and guns sort of go hand-in-hand (so to speak)?

I really expect to see a MUCH more diverse group in the knife forums. Maybe just the conservatives are more vocal with their opinions on here and the others tend to hang back.
 
Generally speaking, anyone who owns a tool or a weapon and knows how to use it is more than likely self-sufficient, and self-sufficient people generally tend to be conservative. Not always, however ~ as there are exceptions to every rule, yet overall this seems to be the case.


Are we happy now!? :grumpy:
 
As a knife enthusiast who is left of center, I resent the suggestion that all conservatives really think for themselves. Frankly, I think that among conservatives, moderates, liberals, radicals, or whatever, one sees free thinkers that can intelligently explain why they believe what they believe and one will also see people who simply repeat the most popular arguments of their political persuasion. The first poster made a point that most people on this forum ignore: many self-identified conservatives dislike knives just as much as any bleeding heart liberal. As I have noted several times in the past, George Bush and John Ashcroft were guilty a knee-jerk reaction when they completely banned knives from airline cabins after September 11. THis stood in strong contrast in the Bush administration unwillingness to check gun registration lists for potential terrorists. In all fairness, Gun were probably protected because the NRA is much more effective lobby at this point in time than the AKTI. My point still stands that conservatives are not automatically pro-knife.
 
If you want to see a liberal, just watch the news after a tragedy or natural disaster. If you hear someone asking "what's the Government going to do about this?" odds are good they're not voting Libertarian or Republican.
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Man, that's quite a broad statement! Here in Houston, TX I have seen many BAD floods. I mean really bad. Most people I talked to that were really in need of shelter, food, etc. were interested to see what could be done by anyone who would help (including the government!). I can assure you that many of them were friends who are conservatives who had flooded homes or cars or both. I just wanted to tell things from my perspective.
 
fulloflead,I don't know why or even if its as one sided as it appears,but I can't help but think of my friend in Seattle.

He's an Attorney,gun owner,avid hunter and a Liberal.For years he's been on his state bowhunting assn.board,from vice pres.to director.He donates tons of time and FREE legal advice to fight the anti's.He debates them at meetings and before lawmakers,he started a p.a.c. to fight them.

Yet he still hears guys say things like"got to watch him,He's a liberal ya know":rolleyes: Yes he says and for 15 plus years I've been doing all this just as part of some big liberal master plan to fool you all.

Oh yes he carries a Spyderco ,drives a fourwheel drive truck,can trap,white water canoe,sail,fish and has played hockey for years after college even.Years back he had a girl friend who was being stalked.I mean the guy was glueing her locks shut,cutting her phonelines and alot more.This liberal bought her a S+W 38 and taught her to shoot.

You can't always paint with a broad brush,well you can you'll just be wrong alot.This liberal friend of mine does more for gun and hunting rights than 99percent of all gun owners/hunters.Hell I even think he can take care of himself without the Governments help.A big part of being self-sufficient is getting a good education so you can earn a really good living,and take care of everything your self,Hell I believe he's even going to pay for his kids college without Government loans and grants.Can you believe that a liberal turning down GOV.welfare.

For the record I'm republican and a member of the NRC.
 
...Conservative?...Me conservative? I carry a Cold Steel Vaquero Grande as one of my EDC folders? Just how conservative is THAT?.:D.:eek:.
 
Liberal, Conservative? Just generalizations to make it easy to catagorize someone. We're too lazy now a days. I mean, GOD forbid we would actually take the time to get to know someone to find out what they're about.
 
WOW! I didn't know who to quote, so I'll just play it by ear.

So there ARE some Liberal and Independant thinkers here! I hope this gets to be a long thread because I know there are some people with some REAL conservative opinions who will probably chime in. This could be a good thread to find out what kind of political diversity we HAVE on this group.

(I didn't GET the Vaquero Grande thing. Will someone please explain it to me?)

"self-sufficient people generally tend to be conservative"
Huh? Are you making this up? Is this because LIberals support helping the homeless and single moms? I call that compasionate. (OOP! That word sounds familiar. Have we heard that word before?):eek:

"We're too lazy now a days. I mean, GOD forbid we would actually take the time to get to know someone to find out what they're about."
I LOVED that, Dirk! Many people DO have complicated opinions on things when you sit down and talk to them. In FACT, I'd LOVE to think that MOST people (like myself) cross party lines on at lease SOME issues.

"You can't always paint with a broad brush,well you can you'll just be wrong alot.This liberal friend of mine..."
Lone Hunter, unfortunately our government was DESIGNED with a "broad brush." Just consider the party platforms. Most people just pick one brush or the other and when they vote they just grab the handle with the big "R" or the "D" on it and give it one good pull. Doesn't it make you wish we had a GOOD, STRONG 3rd party? I do.

"If you hear someone asking "what's the Government going to do about this?" odds are good they're not voting Libertarian or Republican. "
Where did THIS quote come from? It's WAY off. Ever heard of Pro-lifers? Who was it that tried to get rid of the morning after pill; calling it the "abortion pill" AFTER the FDA APPROVED it? Of course, Walmart won't distribute it in their pharmacy, but that's a WHOLE different conversation.

"Frankly, I think that among conservatives, moderates, liberals, radicals, or whatever, one sees free thinkers that can intelligently explain why they believe what they believe and one will also see people who simply repeat the most popular arguments of their political persuasion."
Thanks, anthony. Two words for you: Bill O'Riley
You call that objective news? HA! He's just a spokesperson for the Right and he's got the script down PAT! He's so good at it that the person he's interviewing doesn't even need to be there! In FACT, he just ignores them, for the most part, anyway.
 
Would a Mod please move this, I come here to get away from the Liberal BS in the Media, not be knee deep in it. Thanks

Edited to add: Glockman99, I like your line of thinking:)
 
Originally posted by fulloflead
...(I didn't GET the Vaquero Grande thing. Will someone please explain it to me?)...
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Conservative; "one who adheres to traditional methods or views"...The Merriam-Webster Dictionary

Carrying that monsterous CS Vaquero Grande is ANYTHING but "traditional", and my "views" are that I don't give a damn who does or doesn't like what I carry.:).
 
Originally posted by C. Marlowe
Would a Mod please move this, I come here to get away from the Liberal BS in the Media, not be knee deep in it. Thanks
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Oh, boohoo!
By all means, let's accomodate YOU so you don't have to read something you don't like.:rolleyes:

Welcome to the FIRST Amendment.
Click on a different thread, Jerk.
 
Just FYI, this does not belong in this forum, there is a place for this kind of discussion, just not in this particular one.

And if you have the intention of questioning my allegiance to the constitution then youre gonna have some problems buddy.

As per the Jerk comment, that is just rude and uncalled for.
 
Liberal or Conservative?? Hmm, I think anyone that doesn't agree with the way I think should be taken out and shot!!!! What you don't agree?? Well you what that means don't you?





-This should be in the BladeForums.com Political Arena instead
 
Originally posted by C. Marlowe
Just FYI, this does not belong in this forum, there is a place for this kind of discussion, just not in this particular one.

And if you have the intention of questioning my allegiance to the constitution then youre gonna have some problems buddy.

As per the Jerk comment, that is just rude and uncalled for.
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Well, it STARTED as a discussion of knives and political affiliation and it went a bit astray, but it still kind of applies since it's knife people talking about their political tendencies which is really what I was asking about to begin with.

Your "allegiance to the constitution"? OK. I'll give you that since I've never actually sat down with you and asked you where you stand on the First Amendment and when people should have freedom of speach and when they shouldn't.

Sure, I know there's a "Political" section on this forum and maybe this thread has developed into something that belongs there instead.

Yup. The "jerk" comment was rude, but I thought you deserved it. You weren't contributing to the thread, but mearly objecting to the fact that it had a Liberal tone. You could have just shook your head and moved on to another thread, but instead you decided to attack the people who were having an intelligent discussion just because you didn't like the tone of the conversation. I'm sorry, but if the shoe fits, wear it.
 
Originally posted by TheBadGuy
...I think anyone that doesn't agree with the way I think should be taken out and shot!!!!
-This should be in the BladeForums.com Political Arena instead
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I'm not sure how you mean this; if it's tongue-in-cheek or not. Kind of reminds me of those emblems you see on the back of cars where the Christian fish is EATING the Darwin fish.

Sure, maybe it belongs on the Political section now. That's cool.

At least it's not like some moderators on some other forums who "filter" out unpopular opinions. I haven't seen any indication yet that the moderators are looking to censor people, just maybe moving discussions to a more appropriate section of the forum. I appreciate that.
 
Conservative, liberal, independent, or an
alien from Mars, who cares as long as you
like knives, collect knives, or want to talk
about knives. I have not talked with anyone on
this forum that did not seem to be a gentleman.
There is a wonderful group of guys/gals on this
forum and I could care less about their political
views. Now, please send me offers on any Darrel
Ralph blades you would be willing to trade
to me.:) :)
 
Originally posted by FastJack
Conservative, liberal, independent, or an
alien from Mars, who cares as long as you
like knives, collect knives, or want to talk
about knives. I have not talked with anyone on
this forum that did not seem to be a gentleman.
There is a wonderful group of guys/gals on this
forum and I could care less about their political
views. Now, please send me offers on any Darrel
Ralph blades you would be willing to trade
to me.:) :)
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Amen to that FastJack. Incidentally, if a moderator feels that a particular thread needs to be moved because of relevance etc, then I am sure he or she will move the thread. If not, then who cares, as long as we all dig knives..hehehehe.

I think we need to establish a new political party. It should be called BLADE.
:D
 
fulloflead: I have to agree with Mr. Marlowe on your "jerk" comment. That's uncalled for, and it's said in the rules that you have to be nice and no personal attacks. I don't think that he deserves that comment even if there's no rules around.
As to political alignment, before I seriously got into knives, I both stand in the left and the right. But I don't stand in the center. What does that make me? It doesn't really matter, because whenever I express my political opinion I'll step on so many toes that a couple of nations' people would like to kill me anyways.
ThosTso: A party of BLADE would be interesting ;)
 
fulloflead,
I assure you that anything you write here is not protected from administrative action by the first amendment. Maybe you should brush up on your education of it. You see, you are on a private board and as such, operate under the permissions of the owner. It is the same as if you were in his home. Therefore, anything he deems inappropriate he can silence. I don't think I've ever heard of a banned member suing Spark for violating their civil rights :rolleyes:

This was a politcal discussion from the beginning. Just because you included the words "knives" in your original post doesn't mean it was about knives. If someone started a topic called, "What knives should we use to execute murderers?" Do you really think the discussion would be about knives, or do you think it would degenerate into a shouting match about captial punishment?

This could be a good thread to find out what kind of political diversity we HAVE on this group.
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Or, you could just mosey on over to the Political Arena and read as many threads as you can. Then, if that doesn't satisfy you, you could start a really deep thread like, "What political party do you most closely affiliate with?" I'm sure no one has ever done that before.
 
Okay guys. I'm already sick of politics for the day. I'm moving this over to BladeForum's Political Arena.


Oh crap. Which one of you bastids stole my "move" button!!!!
 
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