Why are people so hard on EKI?

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by scott475:
Why can't everybody else express their views as eloquently and well thought out as nimrod?</font>
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Quite simply because they are too busy inferring some sort of psychosis on the part of people who think the Edged Weapon is a viable weapon, or...they lack the intellectual capability to do so.

E-Trolla, he's another "Old Knife Guy," a poster in our General Forum that went hunting for bear in James Keating's Forum at the beginning of this year. Their rap is almost identical.

"Wannabe, weekend warrior, ninja, rambo."

It's trash...



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"You are no more armed because you are wearing a pistol than you are a musician because you own a guitar." ~Jeff Cooper
And the same goes for a knife...
And, I'm a Usual Suspect.
Some of my Knives and other neat things
 
Yeah, Don. I 'eliminated' my email. It hasn't been there since day 1, or anything.
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It is at the bottom of all but a tiny number (count 'em on one hand) of posts, where I simply forgot to click the 'Show Signature' box at the bottom. Other than that, it is there on every post. But I guess facts are irrelevant to you....

And don't you dare say that I am against using knives for self-defense. It only proves that you know nothing about me, and only paid any attention when your hero was slighted. Doesn't do much for the 'we don't worship EKI' thing. I carry knives for self-defense (as well as utility). I train on a daily basis. I have actually been in a few situations where I had to use a knife as a defensive weapon. How many of you can say that? Very, very few.

--JB

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e_utopia@hotmail.com
 
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by e_utopia:
I have actually been in a few situations where I had to use a knife as a defensive weapon. How many of you can say that? Very, very few.</font>
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I can say that as well, you happy? Now, go away. You have nothing but contempt for EKI and us...so, why are you here?
 
I'm here because someone alerted me that I was being attacked behind my back. Not one of you made any attempt to email me, or contact me in any way.

And I've noticed that you fail to address your false claim that I don't have an email listed. Interesting....

--JB

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e_utopia@hotmail.com
 
You have mail now Skippy.

It should not surprise you that people you have insulted would not wish to contact you.
 
Well, I was going to respond, but it is not worth the effort. Kind of like talking to a wall, you know?

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-Scott Richter
Usual Suspect
Sarcastic? Who,me?
 
It's just old man, so very old. The names change and the exact wording changes, but the insults never do. I simply don't run around here talking smack like that and I expect the same of others.

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"You are no more armed because you are wearing a pistol than you are a musician because you own a guitar." ~Jeff Cooper
And the same goes for a knife...
And, I'm a Usual Suspect.
Some of my Knives and other neat things

[This message has been edited by Don Rearic (edited 05-07-2001).]
 
So why doesn't Emerson change the thin liners to thicker lines and why doesn't EK change the pivot screw? Is EK aware of these problems? Or do they plan only to make changes if sales drop? Or is it because they don't feel there are problems?

I think there is a lot of genuine disatisfaction with the 2 above problems and I think EK should implement changes.
 
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by rogue_spear:
So why doesn't Emerson change the thin liners to thicker lines and why doesn't EK change the pivot screw? Is EK aware of these problems? Or do they plan only to make changes if sales drop? Or is it because they don't feel there are problems?

I think there is a lot of genuine disatisfaction with the 2 above problems and I think EK should implement changes. </font>
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Being admittedly far from an expert, I can surmise along the following lines.

OPERATIONALLY: Thicker liners might alter the weight, balance and/or ergonomics of the knife without significant enhancement to its intended function. A bushing or similar arrangement would be an additional part to loose during field disassembly. A bushing or bearing/race assembly could require tighter tolerances and altered manufacturing processes.

ECONOMICS: Both modifications would no doubt increase costs in addition to the invonvenience (and cost) of design, procurement and assembly complications.

Moreover, to acquiesce to these demands could be perceived as some sort of an admission that a previous design was somehow flawed. That type of thinking is, IMO, usually regressive in nature and frustrates oportunities for improvements. However, if a company is enjoying strong sales, good margins and resultant profits, a businessman could ask himself, "Why fix what ain't broke."


 
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Nimrod:
Moreover, to acquiesce to these demands could be perceived as some sort of an admission that a previous design was somehow flawed. That type of thinking is, IMO, usually regressive in nature and frustrates oportunities for improvements. However, if a company is enjoying strong sales, good margins and resultant profits, a businessman could ask himself, "Why fix what ain't broke."</font>
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Ding ding ding...sorry.



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"You are no more armed because you are wearing a pistol than you are a musician because you own a guitar." ~Jeff Cooper
And the same goes for a knife...
And, I'm a Usual Suspect.
Some of my Knives and other neat things
 
I said I wouldn't post here anymore but I have been following this thread for a while and I thought I would add my $.02. I don't think it's a "sour grapes" thing. I think that Ernie is trying to be a lot of things to a lot of people. Staring and running your own business is very difficult and maybe EKI grew a little too fast. In an effort to meet the large demand for his products and by allowing others (employees) to put his knives together, QC may have slipped. When it isn't your name on the knife and you are on an hourly wage and you put these things together day after day, all you want to do is fill your quota and go home. Ernie's shop is about twenty minutes from my house. I can tell you that a small POS apartment in that area is about $1,000.00/MO. His labor costs are probably high which would be reflected in the cost of the production knives which I think that are the ones that most people bitch about. I think that once Ernie gets caught up and gets his business tuned (he's got a lot of irons in the fire), QC will go way up, there will be no more fodder for trolls and this problem will fade into the sunset.
 
Anything new? Is Ernie "caught up?"

Any thoughts about a Commander II or Harder Use Commander?

how about a Super sized to go with the Mini?
 
I am not usually a poster on this forum, because I do not yet have any Emerson knives. That will probably change soon. I think Mr. Emerson is a brilliant, gifted knifemaker and designer. A lot of people are very high on his products.

But I think one of the main reasons people are hard on EKI is the fact that they are advertised as "The #1 Hard Use Knives In The World." They may be;I don't know. And I don't have a problem with the advertisement. But if you are going to advertise that way, you shouldn't be surprised if you are held to a very high standard. Mr. Emerson doesn't seem to complain about unfair treatment from the knife-buying public. He makes his claims and lets people talk all they want to. The fact that his knives sell so well speaks for itself. They don't need to be defended.

Just the opinion of an interested observer.
 
imho a lot of the flack comes from the production CQC7 which seems to suffer from a lot of QC probs - i know of two personally (one mine) which were impossible to sharpen well, and one was sloppy and the other tooooo tight (the action) - but i have looked at commanders, etc and they seem to be better made - just my .02 worth

and yes i know how to sharpen chisel grinds - my BM 975SBT is shavin sharp.......


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