Why are so many SAK missing the phillips screwdriver?

zimmerDN said:
Can you get ribbed silver/red alox replacement scales?
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Nope. The replaceable celliidor scales snap onto bushings where the pivot pins come through the thin aluminum outer liners; on the Alox models, the scales are the outer liners. There are no bushings, and the pins are different.

In fact, the Alox knives are completely different knives, built very differently, and have thicker blades, implements and springs. Just another way they're more "heavy duty" than the standard cellidor models. But, I don't believe they share any parts at all.
 
Well then its good to know that my future Alox Farmer will be the better of the bunch of SAK. Thanks for the info.
 
As others have intimated, the end of the can opener is actually designed to turn #2 philips head screws and does it much better than the actual philips driver, in my opinion. Go with the Farmer, it's a little tank, has just the right tools, and has better walk and talk than any other slipjoint in existence...
 
Here's a pic of my Alox SAKs, the two red ones are Vic Farmers, you may like the Cadet, it's the thin one in the middle left next to the closed Farmer, the two on top are Wenger Standard Issue and the one in the middle right is a Vic Soldier.

Luis

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i have both a SAK with and one with out a X head but i like flat head better because its more universal and can still let u do that job also saves room...
 
lavan wrote :"Try it before condemning it. I think you'll be surprised at how quick you drop your prejudice against tip serrations."

would say exactelly the same!

i received my one-hand-opener SAK trailmaster one month ago and at first i do not like their partially serrated blade (i am not a "serrated blade" guy)...
But after some test on fooding tasks (sliccing tomatoes, cutting bread and steaks, etc..) i was really impressed !:D
It's not nice, but it cuts like creazy !
After all, my trailmaster will be used mainly during camping, preparing food etc... so basically, his blade is perfect for it !:)
 
Lavan said:
I am now of the opinion that the tip IS the place for the serrations. Not for conformity or esthetics maybe, but I altered one Trailmaster and removed the serrations and made it plain edge.
The serrated is MULTIPLE times more useful. The thin blade profile with the chisel grind is a slicing, cutting MACHINE.
And the serrations on the tip make it fairly impervious to dulling when cutting on a hard surface. Add to that the fact that most WHITTLING or any close-up work is usually done NEAR the handle and I think you'll find that Victorinox is a .....leader..... in what may become the future trend of WHERE to put the serrations.
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My feeling exactly !

Some years ago, I got a Vic Picknicker all serrated, and used it hard.
When I bought my Trailmaster (I am wrong or was it called Military back that time ?), I felt that a partially serrated blade was a great improvement, indeed for whittling.

Well, I also mourned for the missing corkscrew, but you would have seen the spring through it, not so esthetic.

But what a heavy knife compared to a Vic Rucksack...
 
I am a big fan of customizing my SAKks. Of course, I would really like a "design your own" as Esav suggested.

Since I like both corkscrews and phillips, I ma very limited in my choices of SAKs.
I would really like a greater variety.....whine whine


One thing that I always do is cut the pen off with a dremel tool, clean out the ink, and epoxy in a very small phillips, which is something that I need quite often.
 
Esav Benyamin said:
Can you imagine a custom SAK, a model you could order with exactly the handle and tools you wanted? I don't know if it would pay for them to do this, since they thrive on mass production of a multiplicity of standard models. That could be a very expensive custom.
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But what a wonderful option to have! Ah, well, we can dream, I suppose...

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You people that want an SAK with a real phillips head screwdriver should look into the Victorinox Cyber Tool line. They are excellent.
 
I'd bet that if Victorinox would open up a "custom shop", and build SAK's with the buyers selected features, they would sell a bunch of them. Maybe even offer special blade steels, etc. I have a "Harvester" Alox model that is my work knife, I use that thing for all kinds of tasks every single day. IF I could get it with one more layer, add a phillips screwdriver, and get the main blade in something more exotic like 154CM or S30V or 440C, it would be THE perfect carpenter/builders work knife. I use the saw, the hawkbill blade, the flat head screwdriver, the punch, and the main blade considerably, but have never yet to use the bottle opener or wire stripping notch. Two features I have never used on a SAK are the bottle opener and corkscrew. All of our drink bottles here in the US come with screwoff plastic tops, with the exception of a very very few that come with crimped on metal caps, but those also screw off easily. The only bottles I have ever seen in my forty year life with corks are wine bottles, so again, no use for that tool to me. I like a saw, flat screwdriver, phillips screwdriver, clip point main blade, punch, secondary blade can be a hawkbill, works nicely stripping large wires and sharpening pencils, in an Alox frame. Aloxes are MUCH more robust than the plastic scaled knives. The combination tool that acts as a flat screwdriver, can opener, and bottle opener works nicely, that would have to be included on the "custom shop'' model for me as well. I think it would be a great idea for most all of the knife makers to open up a "custom" shop, lots of people would line up to get exactly the knife that they've always wanted but couldn't quite get, even if it meant paying a little more.
 
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