Why aren’t they contented just being “respected” knife makers?

ugh. your genial friendly attitude really wins you friends and the ability to influence people doesnt it?
I wont even broach the subject of your obviously superior Intellect and computer skillz.

put it this way... when Mick Strider posts or reads topics here, hell will probably have officially frozen over. He has 2 or 3 other forums where people dont rant at him all day long.

And thanks for implying that i am an idiot, very mature and thoughtful of you. your statement goes real far in proving that no "there is no strider conspiracy" just that if you disagree with the "in" crowd you will be berated senseless.
 
Not nice Torz...but it's true, Mick could at any time defend himself, but, why bother when you can stay where everyone loves you, and if you are as vocal as boats, would have been banned by now? Stiders are great knives, who cares who Mick is, and yes they are overpriced for a production knife, but if you want to pay that much go for it. Argument over, quit fighting guys! :)
 
so now you are implying that Strider must be the force of evil? all ive heard today is how people on the "other" forums slag everyone for posting anything contrary to popular dogma... and exactly how is this forum different from the other one with "immature mall ninja's"?


Way to prove it happens right here too.
 
darkestthicket said:
so now you are implying that Strider must be the force of evil?
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Oh, geez.... why are you taking that word so literally.
But if you want to discuss evil, fine. I've seen plenty of physical threats on the Strider forums against the disagreers and Strider copycats, without ANY moderation or discouragement by the Strider guys. How's that for evil?
(BTW.... cross forum discussion is HIGHLY discourage, and I think it's against the rules, I tried to be as general as possible.)
 
We are not there, we are here, which i consider *most of the time* to be the least biased, most interesting forum to frequent, post reviews to and share my love of this great hobby.

Im not defending another forum, I was defending a mans right to like a specific knifemaker openly without being taunted, browbeaten, blah blah freaking blah.
Ive been called an idiot 3 or 4 times today for stating my opinion, i sure didnt see any mods stepping in to give out an "infraction" or anything else though i got one myself. how would you care to explain that? I was told personal attacks are good to get you banned, ive been personally hammered all day long...
 
darkestthicket said:
Ive been called an idiot 3 or 4 times today for stating my opinion, i sure didnt see any mods stepping in to give out an "infraction" or anything else though i got one myself. how would you care to explain that? I was told personal attacks are good to get you banned, ive been personally hammered all day long...
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I can only explain it by asking if you reported these posts. If not, you have nothing to complain about. If so, then you could be right. The mods are busy, and probably not able to moderate every thread.
 
I'm not sure of his background but Bill Siegle is my favorite knifemaker and I know when I buy one that I am getting value for dollars and the baddest knives on the planet.

But then again I get flack for going by job title on a knife forum so go figure.
 
I pretty much disagree with the entire premise being espoused.
By far (and I mean 90% and up) the very best makers I know are honest humble people. They make knives for a living so the business part needs salesmanship at times.

To me this thread comes across that "hucksterism" runs rampant and over 20+ years I have experienced pretty darn close up, it in facts sticks out like a sore thumb and is much the exception to a great norm.

The honesty and integrity in the knife community is its strongest asset as far as I am concerned.
 
I have yet to have had any dealings with a maker or company that I don't highly respect. I agree with Bastid, the vast majority of people in the knife industry are trustworthy.

Now, to the original question. What matters to me most is what the person I am dealing with is like right now. People can have made mistakes in their past, and as long as they have turned their lives around, I have no problem dealing with them. I am the last person that should be judging others others. If I were to be juged by my past, I'd be screwed.

The ones that I won't deal with are the ones that are currently thieves, egomaniacs, or just plain SOBs. There are definitely some of those around, but thankfully not many.
 
I like Strider knives. I've got a tanto SnG that's been around the block, and it's still rock solid and razor sharp. I agree with people who defend the reliability of these knives and their overall quality and capability.

But every time we get one of these discussions going, I remember why I despise Strider groupies.
 
Now, if you read my post carefully, you'll note that I said that the "creative biographies" are designed to appeal mall ninjas, etc. Similarly, most ads for sportbikes I've seen are designed to appeal chiefly to the "I wanna pop a wheelie at 120mph on public streets" crowd, and Harley ads focus on the "I'd like to have the Harley logo on everything I own including my dog" demographic.

That's not to say that all sportbike riders are irresponsible smacktards that should be put behind bars for the good of society, or that all Harley owners are mindless brand-conscious sheep, but that's what the ads say to me.

I'm sure not all Strider owners wear camo undies under their mall security guard polyester uniforms, but that's what the biographical creative license implies in my mind.

"I was in the Army, got out, started making knives. Lots of people like them." would carry a lot more weight with me.
 
I think a former inmate of a maximium security prison probably has more experience in knife fighting than most former army officers. Having
commited at least a couple violent premeditated felonys seems like it would be
a usefull skillset for the maker of fighting knives. It is also a good example of
someone who got their life turned around after a bad start and is using their negative experience to do something positive. I like that the guy is a genuine character, and the quote about cord wrapped handles is exactly right.
 
Good thread, Boats!

I have always been far more interested in knives themselves, rather than the military service records of the people who make them. Sal Glesser and Tim Wegner know how to design a knife that suits my needs just fine, and as far as I know, neither served in the military. Granted, there are some darn fine knifemakers and designers who did serve, like Kit Carson, Ken Onion, and Chris Caracci (designer of the BM AFCK), but former military service does not necessarily make someone a good knifemaker.

Knifemakers don't need to be former or current LEO's or Firefighters in order to make a decent piece either, though there are some, like Rick Hinderer, who definitely excell at it.

What it all boils down to, to me at least, is the talent and skill the idividual has as it pertains to knife design and manufacture. I don't want the knife that is touted as being the latest, greatest, "Spec Ops" knife of choice, made by the guy who feels the need to brag about the details of his DD214. I want the knife that will best serve my cutting needs.

I suppose, however, as long as there are people out there who think they need to have whatever uber-tactical piece the "Operators" are carrying, there will be people with "high speed" creds, complete with stories of their "de-animation activities", waiting to sell it to them.

Regards,
3G
 
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