Why being spotted doesn't mean salvation

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Hello W&SS forumites:

Here is an unsettling and unfortunate lesson on why you can't assume, in a survival scenario, that being seen by a helicopter or airplane (or any other vehicle, for that matter) that you've therefore been saved.

Also, the story is evidence that you do need to bring a PSK even on the most innocent-sounding outdoor outing.

Matt

Should have searched sooner, Mounties say
February 26, 2009
THE CANADIAN PRESS

Golden, B.c.– The RCMP admitted today they should have acted sooner when they found out someone had marked out an SOS on a mountainside where two skiers were lost.

At a news conference in Golden, B.C., RCMP Cpl. Dan Moskaluk explained that RCMP contacted the nearby Kicking Horse ski resort when they first received the report Feb. 21.

The resort said it didn't know of any missing or overdue skiers, so the Mounties decided not to check out the area around the rescue symbol.

Moskaluk conceded that, in hindsight, that was the wrong call.

"There's an error on the part of the RCMP for not initiating a callout on Feb. 21," he said.

Gilles Blackburn, 50, and his wife Marie-Josee Fortin, 44, ended up spending nine days lost on the mountain.

Police finally did begin a search three days after the SOS was reported to them, but only after a man was spotted on the mountain signalling for help.

By that point it was too late for Fortin. She had died on the mountain.

Moskaluk said an independent review will investigate why police didn't search when the SOS was first reported.

The troubles for the Quebec couple began when they decided to ski out of bounds at the ski resort Feb 15.

The couple, who police say were not prepared for the backcountry, quickly realized they were in over their heads, but couldn't get back to safety.

Moskaluk said police can't confirm yet what happened in the days that followed. But details from the resort, a heli-skiing company and search-and-rescue officials have pieced together the tragic sequence of events that led to the delayed rescue.

On Feb. 17, two days after the couple became lost, an off-duty ski guide touring in the area spotted some tracks and an SOS stamped into the snow.

The ski guide reported the sighting to his employer, Purcell Helicopter Skiing, which told the resort. It in turn informed search-and-rescue officials.

Resort and rescue officials checked for unreturned rental skis, missing persons reports and any vehicles that may have been left in the parking lot.

On Feb. 21, skiers saw two more SOS symbols, and again notified Purcell, which this time reported it to RCMP at the nearby Golden detachment.

But it wasn't until a heli-skiing tour spotted Blackburn waving his arms for help on Feb. 24 that police acted.

"This is a tragic incident that because of a chain of events that led to limited information being received by several community agencies, including the RCMP, led to some confusion as to initiation and callout of a search-and-rescue effort," Moskaluk said.

Temperatures in Golden ranged from a high of 5C one day to a low of -18C overnight while the couple was missing.

Blackburn has been released from hospital after being treated for frostbite and is on his way back to Quebec.

An autopsy on his wife is to be performed in the coming days.

Moskaluk said police would prefer to wait until then before saying how or when she died, even though they have a pretty good idea from Blackburn.

"Given that he was on the hill and suffering from exposure ... it's a little early to pinpoint ... if his account is 100 per cent accurate as to what day of the week it actually was when she passed away."
 
Ya, it's terrible. Yet another black eye for the Mounties. They were once--once--an institution we Canadians could be proud of.
 
Moskaluk said police would prefer to wait until then before saying how or when she died, even though they have a pretty good idea from Blackburn.

She died because nobody, including the couple, had their shit together.

Tragic, and needless death.
 
Thats a bit rediculous, seeing an SOS sign and because no one at the lodge was missing they ignored it? Someones but could end up getting sued over negligence (to me it was negligent they didnt ATTEMPT to look). Its like they never though "geez maybe they didnt come from the ski logde". It sound like laziness to me.
 
She died because nobody, including the couple, had their shit together.

Tragic, and needless death.

I put the biggest weight on the shoulders of the couple.

"The troubles for the Quebec couple began when they decided to ski out of bounds at the ski resort Feb 15."
 
The RCMP has admitted their mistake, but they weren't the only screwups.

The local volunteer SAR answered the first call, and they checked for unreturned rental skis, etc. -- and didn't bother notifying the RCMP. Then, after the bad news came out, they offered the excuse that it's the RCMP that's responsible for deciding whether to mount a search. Tough call to make if you never told them about it, eh?

And the couple who got lost were ill-prepared -- but they still survived for days. If the search wasn't screwed up, the wife would probably still be alive.

On a final note, "out of bounds" really just means "not part of the resort, not maintained, not our responsibility." It doesn't mean, as people seem to think, "you aren't allowed to go here." It just means you have to be prepared for backcountry travel, which this couple was not.
 
I put the biggest weight on the shoulders of the couple.

"The troubles for the Quebec couple began when they decided to ski out of bounds at the ski resort Feb 15."

Just an educated guess but +1. It does not sound like they had any business being in the back country. No beacons or shovels or probes. No good method of signalling for help. No telling anyone else what their plans were. :thumbdn: Hopefully others will learn from their unfortunate mistakes which led to this tragic death. I will keep the victim and her family in my prayers. -DT
 
The RCMP has admitted their mistake, but they weren't the only screwups.

The local volunteer SAR answered the first call, and they checked for unreturned rental skis, etc. -- and didn't bother notifying the RCMP. Then, after the bad news came out, they offered the excuse that it's the RCMP that's responsible for deciding whether to mount a search. Tough call to make if you never told them about it, eh?

And the couple who got lost were ill-prepared -- but they still survived for days. If the search wasn't screwed up, the wife would probably still be alive.

On a final note, "out of bounds" really just means "not part of the resort, not maintained, not our responsibility." It doesn't mean, as people seem to think, "you aren't allowed to go here." It just means you have to be prepared for backcountry travel, which this couple was not.



Yup.

YOUR life is not someone else's responsibility.




Kis
 
As a starting point, the RCMP/SAR should fire everyone involved..... IMHO that's like a fire dept not looking into a smoking building..... you trust these people with your life... and they ignore SOS signs on the side of a ski mountain in out of bounds territory..... come on..... heads should roll for this one. 911 has to check out every single call... so should they... her death is on their hands.

Rick...

If they hadn't signalled I say yes it was their fault totally.... but when RCMP/SAR fail to act on a verified distress signal... that is negligence on THEIR PART.
 
It's a disgrace and heads must roll. The authorities bungled it and a life was lost. I also have to give credit to the two skiers for making their signals, and surviving as long as they did, despite the fact that they weren't prepared.
 
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The RCMP has admitted their mistake, but they weren't the only screwups.

The local volunteer SAR answered the first call, and they checked for unreturned rental skis, etc. -- and didn't bother notifying the RCMP. Then, after the bad news came out, they offered the excuse that it's the RCMP that's responsible for deciding whether to mount a search. Tough call to make if you never told them about it, eh?

And the couple who got lost were ill-prepared -- but they still survived for days. If the search wasn't screwed up, the wife would probably still be alive.

On a final note, "out of bounds" really just means "not part of the resort, not maintained, not our responsibility." It doesn't mean, as people seem to think, "you aren't allowed to go here." It just means you have to be prepared for backcountry travel, which this couple was not.

thats is the protocol thruout canada, its NOT up to the SAR teams to decide to mount a search. RCMP makes the final decision.
 
Mental note added. If I ever need a SOS, it will have a date attached....then at least there can be no question as to whether or not it is old or not.
 
They should all be out of a job. There is no logical reason to ignore a SOS, no matter what. Checking for missing skiis realy does nothing at all.. They shouldn't be allowed to be in that job field if they don't even bother looking into it.
 
thats is the protocol thruout canada, its NOT up to the SAR teams to decide to mount a search. RCMP makes the final decision.

Right, but the local SAR never notified the RCMP of the first report. In effect, the local SAR exceeded their authority by deciding that a search wasn't warranted.

Supposedly, local SAR checked for unreturned skis, checked if anyone was missing from local hotels, and checked the parking lot for cars that didn't belong. But your hotel won't report you missing until you fail to pay your bill. And as it happened, their car was in the parking lot.

So the RCMP doesn't deserve all the blame here.
 
It makes you appreciate the good rangers(and other forms of servicemen) when you get them. I was up backpacking when a bad unexpected ice/snow storm hit. We were fine, got a fire and retired with the sunlight, but rangers greeted us the next morning saying that they had noticed that a group had signed in but had not signed out before the storm.
 
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