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thank you much! They have been good to me also, medium duffle and sportsman bag. Good day
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Why Buy a CRK?
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Well, I finally get it. Many satisfied, even devoted, owners speak of feel and quality. I was interested and looked up YouTube reviews. The Blade HQ 2 part shop tour featuring Mr. Reeve in 2013 showed a proud compulsive man dogging his product through assembly while explaining production intricacies. The price is warranted but in my case priorities will prevent ownership. Still, bravo to the man and his work.
I love my sebenza and would never sell it. I think the pivot bushing on the 21 and the fact that all three screws are interchangeable are vastly understated awesome features and one of the reasons I love it so much. You can take apart and literally cant screw it up when you put it back together, and you only need one allen wrench to do it. I must admit though, those Cold Steel lock test videos did a number on me, I believe the sebenza was the weakest lock that was tested on those videos, failing at 45lbs on the weight hang. On the other hand theres a guy on youtube who batons with one (something I would NEVER do) with a 21 and the lock didnt fail. Plus I can try to overcome the lock with my hands as hard as I can and the lock doesnt slip at all, so I dont know. But I would be lying if I said it didnt make me lose some faith in the lock strength.
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Thank you, my thoughts exactly, I take my eyes off the post for a few days and then come back to all this, good lord...
The brute strength of a lock isn't everything. I have owned and used CRKs since 2002, and have never even come close to a lock failure during use. Also, IMO, the Cold Steel lock test in question doesn't even approach real-world use. ANY knife lock can be made to fail under certain conditions. There is so much more to folding knife lock safety/inherent dangers than how a lock fails during some test.
What I find amazing is that all of my CRKs, including my first one, have rock-solid lockup. In fact, the lockup on even my first one hasn't even worn much at all after all these years. There is no blade play in any direction, and absolutely no lock slip. That's all the proof I need.
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Since the thread exists I might as well ask here. For those who own a (large) Sebenza and an Umnumzaan, how different are they? In terms of opening, smoothness and feel in hand? I like the Zaan a lot so I wondering if a 21 would be different enough to get one as well.
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Some would say you should start with a Sebenza. I dont have either so cant help you.
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It would be different enough to get one. The Umnumzaan is quiet on lock up, opens differently than a 21. The 21 is push straight out, then an arc motion to open whereas the Umnumzaan is push straight up. The 21 has an audible lock up sound.
For me, even though the shape of the two knives are different, I find both comfortable to use.
The 21 is missing the back spacer/ screws in this pic. It took me two days to notice it.
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Allright, looks like my thoughts on why the Sebenza is so Iconic haven't been posted yet.
In my opinion the Sebenza is a solid 8. But it's a solid 8 all across the board. Which is what makes it different from most other designs.
There are plenty of knives who score a 9-10 on edge retention and cutting ability....but they'll be a 6 or a five in other parts of the knife (like fit/finish)
There are loads of knives which have better Ergos...but maybe the steel will be less good....or the ability to take it apart will be compromised.
Some knives will outlast the Sebenza (loads of fixed blades will for instance) but they won't be as portable...or pocket friendly or have a similar blade/handle ratio.
In a world where most knives score and average of 8....it's rare to see a knife that does everything fairly well without compromising too much on a single point.
The Sebenza really is a Master of None. But it is a GREAT jack of all trades.
In my opinion the Sebenza is a solid 8. But it's a solid 8 all across the board. Which is what makes it different from most other designs.
There are plenty of knives who score a 9-10 on edge retention and cutting ability....but they'll be a 6 or a five in other parts of the knife (like fit/finish)
There are loads of knives which have better Ergos...but maybe the steel will be less good....or the ability to take it apart will be compromised.
Some knives will outlast the Sebenza (loads of fixed blades will for instance) but they won't be as portable...or pocket friendly or have a similar blade/handle ratio.
In a world where most knives score and average of 8....it's rare to see a knife that does everything fairly well without compromising too much on a single point.
The Sebenza really is a Master of None. But it is a GREAT jack of all trades.