Why Can't i bee a fan like the rest of the knife planet?.. This is why! ->

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So your a knife guy and don't have no Spyderco?
well i actually do own 1 spyderco, for couple of years now..
and it was a bad introduction to Spyderco for me.

im pretty sure by 2015 spyderco are working on some of the issues
im laying here & they may be improved, but I'll name them any way
to further drive the point across or touch on issues that may not
be conventionally agreed upon.

Dealbreaker's: in order of importance.

1. Backlock!
a. cumbersome use, you have to change your grip.
b. slow to close.
c. if you damage it you can't just order the lock
you must ship entire knife for lock fitting.
d. very little contact surface.
i feel the only vindication for a backlock is exceptional strength, in the case of CS knifes, and the new modified spydi version.
But that's only relevant for hard use folders,
which are NOT what spyderco are known for. (the classic spydi's)

2. to much of a Porsche!
same knife same design to little changes
and the same mold with not enough visual innovation.
(yes a big change in that subject is finally visible in 2015)


3. The Hole!. (how dare you! :mad:)
a. sorry, it's just way to slow of a deployment method. (yes non aggressive)
but why not add a flipper for speed & variety, for all classic models?

b. requires wrist flick. (in some classic models)
what's wrong with Good old thumb studs?
they are faster, easy to use for anyone, and easy on the fingers if done right.

c. took me forever to learn the middle finger flick,
it seams like salesman gimmick, more then anything.


4. Vulgar FRN.
a. 1 word comes to mind when i see Spyderco FRN, - CHEEP.
really? 70$ for VG10 and ugly FRN, NO Thanks!
actually no mater how good the steel, the FRN is a major turn off.
Ontario Rat 1 Zytel looks & feels way way better and for way way less money.
b. stripping of the pocket clip screws on the FRN.

this may be seam as a bash, but its actually a plea for spyderco.
i don't want to feel like a freak for not being a spyderco fan.

spyderco is well loved & appreciated by 90% of knife world
Let me in is what im really saying, just few changes are needed for me
to finally go ahead and get a spyderco & be prude :o of it.
:p
 
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Hehehe...interesting thoughts. I would respond to all of them but it would take too long as I kind of have the opposite opinion on everything you brought up. I will say that certain points you brought up, like the spyderhole being a slow or inefficient way to open a knife, make it clear that you just haven't spent enough time using spyderco knives.

I would suggest you decide on a model that fits your needs, buy it and then give it a few months of actual carry and use. If you really want to understand then that's your path. You wouldn't be the first person that didn't "get" spyderco knives at all but found yourself falling in love with them after you saw how perfect their designs were in real world use. The adoration exists for a reason. So if you're not getting it then you have to at least entertain the possibility that...you're not getting it. :)
 
Some hate them and then fall in love with them, never heard of someone who loved them and started to hate them.
There is so much variety that they could hardly be called 'Porche".
Hate backlock- try a compression lock, or liner lock.
Hate FRN- try the G10.
Hate the Spydie hole- cant help you, as the hole defines them and really works very well, even though there are flippers available.
Your mileage obviously does vary.
 
I completely agree with your opinion of FRN.

I must respectfully disagree with your opinion of the spyder hole. The hole provides faster deployment than any of my thumb stud knives. Unlike studs, the hole does not get in the way when sharpening or cutting and does not catch on anything.

A co-worker and I play a game; when we see each other in the hallway we see who can whip out and deploy their knife the fastest (as long as others aren't in the hallway). It is a fun game; I highly recommend it! I'm surprised how often I fumble with stud deployment and can't even get the knife completely open under pressure. These issues go away with the hole.
 
I love the back-locks. What I can't stand is a frame-lock. :D
I can't say that I agree with any of your points, but that's perfectly OK. As far as cheap FRN, have you held a Benchmade Griptilian recently? Lol.
 
Surfingringo said:
Hehehe...interesting thoughts. I would respond to all of them but it would take too long as I kind of have the opposite opinion on everything you brought up. I will say that certain points you brought up, like the spyderhole being a slow or inefficient way to open a knife, make it clear that you just haven't spent enough time using spyderco knives.

I would suggest you decide on a model that fits your needs, buy it and then give it a few months of actual carry and use. If you really want to understand then that's your path. You wouldn't be the first person that didn't "get" spyderco knives at all but found yourself falling in love with them after you saw how perfect their designs were in real world use. The adoration exists for a reason. So if you're not getting it then you have to at least entertain the possibility that...you're not getting it. :)
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I was going to respond to the OP but after reading Surfingrino all I can say is,,, yeah, what he said! So +1 to Surfingringo.

I think the OP needs to take a few minutes to also go online and post thoughts on cars he doesn't like, restaurants he hates and music that he just doesn't get.
 
AmosPaul said:
I completely agree with your opinion of FRN.

I must respectfully disagree with your opinion of the spyder hole. The hole provides faster deployment than any of my thumb stud knives. Unlike studs, the hole does not get in the way when sharpening or cutting and does not catch on anything.

A co-worker and I play a game; when we see each other in the hallway we see who can whip out and deploy their knife the fastest (as long as others aren't in the hallway). It is a fun game; I highly recommend it! I'm surprised how often I fumble with stud deployment and can't even get the knife completely open under pressure. These issues go away with the hole.
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Awesome game unless the boss walks around the corner :D
Maybe elevator as soon as the door closes? If there are no cameras. :cool:

What if you try an assisted folder. Push the thumbstud a little bit and it jumps out. it requires less cordination and is faster as long as you can hold it and don't let it fly out of your hand. :D

Gotta check if Spyderco has assisted knives.
 
Barman1 said:
I usually don't post in troll threads.

This is a troll thread.
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He got ya! I didn't post so I can now point and laugh. . . . . . . . . . What? Oh, darn! Really, though, all he's asking is for a complete redesign so he can buy one $70 knife. Sound business model if ever I heard one!
 
I hate thumbstuds.
I've gotten over flippers.
Agree on the FRN.
Spydercos are more about function than form, but they pull off aesthetics well enough once you get past the Spyderhole.
Spyderco does the most collaborations with custom makers over any other brand in the history of knives, resulting in a very diverse portfolio of designs. Your #2 argument is simply stupid.
 
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1) Indifferent. If it's a good lock I don't really care.
2) They look the same because they worked back then and they still work. However, Spyderco is one of the few companies that puts out really wild designs so I really have no idea what you're talking about except the mainstay models. Again, they still work.
3) The hole is better than thumbstuds. Not sure why you have such an issue with them. They work just fine for me. And why are you flicking knives. I've never felt the need for that.
4) The FRN didn't used to be my cup of tea. I had an older model with it and it was pretty cheap. The FRN molds they're using today make the material really nice. It "feels" cheap, but isn't. IMO, the way Spyderco does it gives you more grip security than their already grippy G10 models. If you actually use knives, why on earth would you choose flat/smooth titanium? I still don't understand this trend. Titanium is a "nicer" material than FRN but it doesn't function as well. Which, IMO, calls into question peoples definition of the word "nicer." It's also lighter than G10. :D
 
Lycosa said:
Didn't Spyderco go belly-up?
:D
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Yes, they just wouldn't listen. No one likes holes in their blades! At least with a flipper you can grind it off. Try grinding off a hole and you don't have much left! :eek:
 
We need to warn Glock and all the other manufacturers to stop making polymer frames. Hate to see them go belly up cuz panta won't buy their cheap looking product. They have at least 11 years before pantas old enough to buy one though.
 
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