Why Can't I Clean My Knives?

I never said anything about rare collectors knives or antiques. I definitely know when to leave something alone.

I have very few knives that have a patina on them that I feel belongs there. One of which is a really old stag handled German hunting knife that has been in my family for years. I generally don't like a patina, but that's one of the only knives that I've seen that looks right with one.

To address your question on finishing techniques, I just go by whatever's appropriate for the style and condition of the knife really. For example, A fellow gave me a couple of pretty common pocket knives to clean for him, a brown jigged bone Case XX stockman, and a large Schrade Old Timer stockman. The Case was made of stainless steel that had a few red spots of rust and some light scratches that came out with the fine scotch brite wheel. The blade had a pretty rough belt grinder factory finish (like alot of Case knives), so I wanted to keep the vertical, belt finish but make it brighter and more uniform with no scratches, which the scotch brite wheel did beautifully. I polished the brass on inside of the knife, the spine, the pins and the bolsters with some Flitz, and replaced the shield that was missing with a small oval of steel I cut out and worked on with the Dremel, and epoxied in the original hole (the Dremel rules!). It looked so good. Like new money.

That knife didn't take much to get it right, but the Old Timer was completely rusted over and the blades were pretty much almost stuck together. You could tell that the knife had never been used or sharpened. Just neglected to rust over. With knives like these, I generally hit them with some WD-40 and let them sit to loosen some stuff up, and then use the little steel brush on the Dremel to get the big rust and gunk off. If the blades are broken, I re-shape them using the Dremel or the belt grinder.

The Dremel is always on a slower speed, and I use great care with it. The little steel brush takes the crud off without really marring up, or heating the steel. Then I carefully use a little rubber eraser impregnated with a fine grit to get the patina and rust and all discoloration off the spine and blades. This eraser stuff can get into the knife joints and be a gritty pain in the ass, so I'm careful with it.

After the blades, ricassos, spine etc. are brightened up a bit and free of rust and discoloration (the eraser leaves a uniform satin like finish) I get any pitting or scratches with the sandpaper, (wrapped around a flat piece of wood or steel) usually starting with 400 grit and sometimes going up to 2000 or more if I desire to do a mirror finish, usually done with the Dremel and a felt wheel, depending on blade size.(The buffing wheels on the Dremel tend to leave swirly marks on larger surfaces.) The knives I generally do are working knives, so I stick with the fine scotch brite satin finish that I love, or a hand rubbed finish. Mirror finishes are kind of gaudy and tacky on some knives, so the scotch brite wheel makes them nice, but still utilitarian.

It takes a bit of time and some elbow grease. My hands have been sore for days after finishing a knife. Take your time, dont rush, and pay attention to small details.
 
Hi Phsycho78,

Thanks for the interesting story on how you handled those knives.
Your info will get me started on some stuff posponed till summer is over.;),
I totally agree with you that too high mirror polish would not be recommanded as every icky bitty spot or work marks will show.

So paper in grits from 400-2000 and a scotch brite wheel and felt wheel for the dremel would do the trick. And FLitz or other good metal polish.

I have got an old stag handle fixed bowie knive that is very badly scratched up by lousy sharpning attempt. I got it from a dear friend who past away for 2 years. I keep it for setimental reasons.
Well a nice job for me when the fall and buckets of rain come.

Disregard my remarks on your post about patina; i disimprettated it . No offence intended.

Thanks again and enjoy the summer:thumbup:
 
Sad story about your Father.Unfortunately I also have fallen for my share of FLOOZIES ! Love you while you got money.

My Condolences,
armilite
 
I'm glad to see other people tune-up old knives. Your techniques, methods and motivations are very enlightening. Thanks for your input.
 
Just watch "Antiques Roadshow" the first thing they tell people after they give them an estimate is to get it expertly restored and it can signifigantly increase the value. The same with knives.
BTW: how is gunk on knives supposed to be historical or valuable?
 
I totally agree with you that too high mirror polish would not be recommanded as every icky bitty spot or work marks will show.


Yeah...and a really bright high gloss mirror finish doesn't really go too well with some knives. Knives like the Old Timer and others with inexpensive handle materials. It looks tacky in some cases. In other cases, a mirror finish is great. My efforts are completely dependent on the style and condition of the knife.
 
This old bowie of mine isn't much of a collectors item ist made in Solingen but well build. I just want to egalize the scratches but surely don't want to give it a high polish as the knive would get tacky. It has a stag handle and coper bolsters and a nickel/steel pommel. Its is kind of 70 ish style.

With modern hi tech knives a brite polish would look good. But as you guys say in depends on the knive and what you feel appropiate for it.
 
The Scotch-brite wheel works great for lines on a blade. I used it on an old Buck 110 style Case knife and it cleaned up a lot of scratches and gave it a factory looking finish. Home Depot or Loew's didn't have a wheel like I wanted so I made a wheel for my 6" grinder with four somewhat round pieces of 000 Scotch-brite from sheets and poked a hole in the middle. Watch your fingers! If the blade didn't lock, I'd be typing with my thumb.
 
The wheel I have is really expensive, like 60 bucks, but it's a really dense and hard scotch brite wheel. You can get them from Texas Knifemakers Supply, or nearly any knifemaking supply catalog.

They have the new little fine scotch brite wheels for the dremel tool as well. I use those sometimes.
 
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