Why carry a multi-bladed knife

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alright, I'm really confused. I just got into collecting knives. now logic tells me that i shouldn't want a blade like a case stockman. i mean it collectsa bunch of lint in the tiny crevices, they usually have inferior steel, they don't lock so that obviates heavy use, so it should be a comprably poor choice compared to say something like a kershaw piston or a spyderco tenacious.

SO WHY DO I WANT ONE SO BAD!?

could anyone point out the potential advantages I'd have using one of these knives, and a reccomendation for a reasonably priced one, any help or advice you can offer would be helpful.
 
You want one because they are aesthetically pleasing, take up almost no room in the pocket, don't scare people, and are utilitarian. Maybe also because you remember seeing Papaw carry one.
 
1) They cut things well.
2) They don't have inferior steel.
3) If you are cutting (not stabbing) you don't need a lock.
4) Dust can be eliminated by the recently-discovered technique of blowing into the knife. There's probably some YouTube vids on proper technique.

Buy a Case stockman.
 
People got on just fine with these patterns for nigh on 150+ yrs if that isnt good enough testimony I don't know what is.
 
Try carving a pumpkin with a ZT200 then revisit your assumptions regarding multi-blade slipjoints. Honestly, small and thin blades do a heck of a job and can handle 90% of what you need in a knife.
 
Try this:

Carry a tactical folder and a case med stockman in CV together for a month and see gets more use. My guess is that if you really use a knife you'll find yourself reaching for the case 99 times out of 100.
 
A good quality slipjoint is more than up to hard work! I only carry one hand opening locking knives in the city, outdoors and at the farm I use slipjoints and fixed blades.

I've been using Case and GEC sippies for quite a long time and they hold up just fine.

Multiple blades means that it's easier to find one that's well suited to the job at hand, and it also allows you to keep one super sharp for delicate tasks while you work with the others.

This is the one I use the most (dirty after a couple of rainy days at the ranch):
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alright, I'm really confused. I just got into collecting knives. now logic tells me that i shouldn't want a blade like a case stockman. i mean it collectsa bunch of lint in the tiny crevices, they usually have inferior steel, they don't lock so that obviates heavy use, so it should be a comprably poor choice compared to say something like a kershaw piston or a spyderco tenacious.

SO WHY DO I WANT ONE SO BAD!?

could anyone point out the potential advantages I'd have using one of these knives, and a reccomendation for a reasonably priced one, any help or advice you can offer would be helpful.

Okay rocker, lets cut to the chase. You want one because deep down on some level you know that it's a great edc pocket knife that will handle most anything you have to cut in the real world. Your grandpa and his grandpa before him somehow got a lot more work done way back then, than most of us modern office cubicle suburbanites. You'll have a choice of three different blades to keep for different uses. Maybe even three different type edges and angles. The sheepsfoot blade on a stockman is the real worker. It's capable of cutting sheetrock, stripping wire, and other hard use, while the long clip can be kept clean and sharp for general use. The spey blade can be kept scalpel sharp for any surgery you may have to do.:D

The lack of a blade lock does not rule out whatever you call hard work. These knives were used long before there were locking blade knives in common use, yet most of the old timers from way back then had all their fingers. They just knew how to use a knife. In fact springless and non locking 'penny knives' go back to the 1600's and were in common use among the working class, no matter if herdsmen or farm worker or laborer. And the old cowboys riding herd on half wild longhorns up the trail needed a good pocket knife. The modern premium stockman of the 1880's is evolved from the old cattle knife of the 1870's. I've always felt that the young knife users of today put way too much emphasis on the lock, and that trust makes for sloppy knife handling habits. In my life I've seen two very bad accidents where a lock failed because the user was trusting too much and putting too much pressure on the blade. In one case, only a tendon in the right index finger was severed and needed surgery to fix. The other case, a right index finger was totally severed when a Buck 110 failed when the young idiot tried boring through a sheet of thin plastic rather than go get a drill. I'd rather have a knife that I know will bite me if I act stupid, rather that rust a mechanical device with my fingers well being.

There's no single blade knife, no matter what steel of the month it's made out of, or flashy opening it has, that is going to give you the cutting versatility that the stockman will give you. Not to mention being able to take it out almost anywhere to cut something, and not have people make unwanted comments. The traditional slip joint has great social acceptance out there, which is no small thing these days. Having nice looking jigged bone or other natural materials is another plus. After using one for a while, you will notice it feels so much better in hand than the modern stuff. And you'll be surprised at how well it works. It may not have the latest trendy steel, but it's good enough to do whatever you have to, and then touch up the blade on the bottom of coffee mug or the top edge of your car window. Or even just stropped on a boot top or back of a belt.

Since we're not talking a lot of money here, just go buy it, and use it for a while. You'll be glad you did.

Carl.
 
Some knives get carried for show, some knives are carried to quietly handle the business at hand.

More Stockmans have been carried and put to real "hard use" than all the black tactical knives combined.
 
Try carving a pumpkin with a ZT200 then revisit your assumptions regarding multi-blade slipjoints. Honestly, small and thin blades do a heck of a job and can handle 90% of what you need in a knife.

That about covers it for me in addition to jackknife's eloquence on the subject.

So in a 2.5 t0 4.25 inch package you have 6-9 inches of blade that will cut and slice better than a typical 1 hand opening tactical. What is not to love. I carry and use both styles, but with multiblades there are a lot more options. In one handle you can cover a plethora of needs. When you can have a pen blade, a wharncliff and a clip point all in one package or any number of other combinations the advantages seem pretty clear.
 
I was of a similar opinion until a short while ago. Now I'm getting a Case Sowbelly myself. There is just something special about them, very classy. God bless America!
 
1) They cut things well.
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They cut better compared to stock blades on tacticals(or modern folders), but properly sharpened modern steel will be different, and not in the favor of the old stuff.

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2) They don't have inferior steel.
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From what I know, as usual it's plain carbon steel, 10xx series, and pretty soft at that, 54-55HRC... Compared to modern alloys used in modern folders that IS inferior.

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3) If you are cutting (not stabbing) you don't need a lock.
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May be you don't, but people are people, accidents happen. Majority of the folks don't close their folders on their own fingers on purpose. Accidents U know. Better with a lock than without one.
 
They cut better compared to stock blades on tacticals(or modern folders), but properly sharpened modern steel will be different, and not in the favor of the old stuff.

"Thin" cuts.

From what I know, as usual it's plain carbon steel, 10xx series, and pretty soft at that, 54-55HRC... Compared to modern alloys used in modern folders that IS inferior.

Functional, easy to sharpen, and reasonably priced, to me, is not inferior.

May be you don't, but people are people, accidents happen. Majority of the folks don't close their folders on their own fingers on purpose. Accidents U know. Better with a lock than without one.

That isn't the knife's fault.
 
Everyone should own a stockman of some sort. I only carried my Buck 373 for about a month before I got my Dragonfly, but I enjoyed the versatility of the design for that time. Just a preference of mine for the one hander and the Dfly fills my needs superbly for my small knife. Best believe that stockman stays in my bag and still gets use from time to time though. Mostly the sheepsfoot for particular tasks and the spey is a great scraper.

Variety is the spice of life, get yourself a stockman.
 
"Thin" cuts.
Hmm, I was under impression that was obvious, which is why I specifically mentioned properly sharpened, because in most of the cases(except for those "hard use, overbuilt, thick " folders) modern/harder steels allows for a thinner edge, because of the steel. Something that 55HRC carbon steel can not do.


Functional, easy to sharpen, and reasonably priced, to me, is not inferior.
Your opinion, price, sharpenability, etc don't change steel properties, which are dependent on other factors. 10xx at 55HRC will be inferior, edge can't be as thin as on a harder steel, wear resistance is lacking etc. In other words, pure cutting performance and edge holding suffer. Considering that we're talking about the small knives, those are the properties that matter the most, at least when assessing knife/steel performance.

That isn't the knife's fault.
Using that logic seat belts are also unnecessary, it is mostly driver's fault. Who cares who's fault it is? I'd be much happier to avoid serious cut regardless of who's fault it was. What do you propose, we have to learn on our bloody(literally) mistakes?
 
Hmm, I was under impression that was obvious, ...

My apologies for restating the obvious that a thin blade outcuts a thick blade.

.... Considering that we're talking about the small knives, those are the properties that matter the most, at least when assessing knife/steel performance.

To you. Not to me.

Using that logic seat belts are also unnecessary, it is mostly driver's fault. Who cares who's fault it is? I'd be much happier to avoid serious cut regardless of who's fault it was. What do you propose, we have to learn on our bloody(literally) mistakes?

If people use seatbelts as an excuse to drive unsafely.
 
Until last summer I had ONE pocket knife for 10+ years. A Medium Case Stockman. I added it's mate a Trapper last year and it has become my go to work knife.

I'm all for getting a stockman. They come in small, medium and large with a million choices on handle material. You may want to check out the 'trapper lock'.

Enjoy the search...
 
You want one because they are aesthetically pleasing, take up almost no room in the pocket, don't scare people, and are utilitarian. Maybe also because you remember seeing Papaw carry one.

What he said....

Ignore the arguing pair. opinions are like.... ;)
 
My apologies for restating the obvious that a thin blade outcuts a thick blade.
Oh... No apologies necessary. Although, you do avoid mentioning a simple fact that modern steel can be ground much thinner than good old 10xx at mid 50HRC. If you bring up "thin" as an argument, then why not be consistent.

To you. Not to me.
It's neither "to you" nor "to me". Each steel has properties, which can be measured, tested, etc. Your opinions and like/dislikes won't change neither its composition nor those properties.
As for the "easy to sharpen" that's pure nonsense, unless you insist on sharpening on the rocks and such. With today's sharpening stones it's pretty easy and efficient to sharpen everything, until you get into super high vanadium/super hard blades. Well, I guess if one insists on 100+ year old steel, might as well insist on flat rocks for sharpening, but why...

If people use seatbelts as an excuse to drive unsafely.
Huh? Could you please elaborate on that - "If they use seatbelts to drive unsafely"? Remove seatbelts for those people or punish them otherwise? Last time I checked most of the sane people used seatbelts to save themselves from a POTENTIAL injury in case ACCIDENT happened. Haven't seen a study arguing against seatbelts either.
What do you think, people who use seatbelts are looking to ram someone with their cars, like people who want locks on the folders absolutely want to stab something?
 
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