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Why do people complain about the Cold Steel Recon 1? (Opinions)
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You are welcome to your opinion but I stand by mine. It's too slab sided with coarse G10 and lots of grooves. I had that knife for over a year and used it for all sorts of things. I found the Voyager much more comfortable and sold the Recon. The Voyager with its rounder handle profile and plastic handle is the better knife at a lesser price. IMO. Nitpicking would be pointing out how the edge doesn't go all the way to the ricasso, there a few mm's of un-sharpened edge. That's nitpicking.
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My personal take on Cold Steel is quaility control is ify, or inconsistent. This weekend I expect they Cold Steel will have a large display at the SAR Show in Phoenix.
Last year I was going to buy a Cold Steel Recon but after looking at a couple of the knives on display I decided there QC was not consistant.
Cold Steel alway draws a big croud to their booth, as they have some videos running with their blades cutting up rope, sides of beef, that make people go goo goo over the videos.
But you must remember the viedo do not go in a continous fashion. Each segment I am sure is shot many time, and edited for maxium wow factor. They cut rope, slice sides of beef, but like all Hollywood production I am sure everything is prepped to acheve the desired result.
Last year I was going to buy a Cold Steel Recon but after looking at a couple of the knives on display I decided there QC was not consistant.
Cold Steel alway draws a big croud to their booth, as they have some videos running with their blades cutting up rope, sides of beef, that make people go goo goo over the videos.
But you must remember the viedo do not go in a continous fashion. Each segment I am sure is shot many time, and edited for maxium wow factor. They cut rope, slice sides of beef, but like all Hollywood production I am sure everything is prepped to acheve the desired result.
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Went out to the Cross Roads SAR Show yesterday. Cold Steel was there in the SAR Building with a large display. Look at a couple of their "new" offerings. I still think they need to get better quality control in their plant off shore.
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I have owned many cold steel knives. I have not had one QC issue. My Recon 1 is perfect. Perhaps you could cite some examples to back up your assertions.
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Yeah, my old American Lawman does that, i took it apart and tried to fix it, but there is nothing to fix!
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Assertion not, opinion yes. Here is the deal I have arthritis in my hands. So being fair I looked at 3 or 4 Cold Steels at the SAR, for me they are difficult to release from the open position. They are just to darn hard for me to release. This was is what I found one worked good, the other three were so hard to release from the open position, I would not buy one.
Honestly for a knife cost $100.00 I would expect it to work smoothly, with ease, and nothing more. Cold Steel is made in off shore in Asia. Maybe their factory just is not capable of build a product with consistancy.
Honestly for a knife cost $100.00 I would expect it to work smoothly, with ease, and nothing more. Cold Steel is made in off shore in Asia. Maybe their factory just is not capable of build a product with consistancy.
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Honestly, I find the difficulty of operating the Triad lock, particularly with arthritis to be a pretty valid complaint. But the difficulty level seems to be model specific and fairly consistent. I don't at all blame you for avoiding them (look at the Freeman 451 folder, buttonlocks are aces for ease of use), but I'm not sure how it constitutes a black mark against their production quality.
One complaint that I have about the Recon 1 is the ergonomics are, I feel, far more focused on weapon retention than on comfort for extended use. Now, to be fair, it's designed as a duty knife, so I can understand that, but I find the more refined ergonomics of the Ultimate Hunter much more satisfactory.
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So because your hands are weakened with arthritis, something most of us will deal with someday, you claim the company has poor quality control? How does that make sense? What does being made in Taiwan have to do with anything?
Yes the Triad lock is more difficult to unlock than most lock back knives. That is not a quality control issue. They changed the tension on the back spring with the models in the newer steel I have heard. I can also verify that assertion with evidence. I owned the previous iteration and the newer one is easier to unlock. Neither was all that difficult though.
Honestly, XHP steel made in the USA, real DLC coating, and with the strongest lock on the market, I think the Recon 1 is well worth the price.
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Right, ease of operation with arthritis or ergonomics based on grip retention are valid opinions. Folks don't have to like everything. But to blame said opinionated dislikes on quality control is misplaced and inaccurate.
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For years, the only significant complaints I ever heard about the Recon 1 were from people who wished it had better steel than AUS-8, and from people who didn't like the Teflon coating on the blade because it wore off too easily.
Now that Cold Steel has upgraded them with DLC coated CTS-XHP, there's really nothing to complain about. You either like the knife's design and the Triad lock, or you don't.
Now that Cold Steel has upgraded them with DLC coated CTS-XHP, there's really nothing to complain about. You either like the knife's design and the Triad lock, or you don't.
My son and I were recently in NC visiting my daughter and we went to Extreme Outfitters. Been there twice.. cool store decent knife selection, horrible service!. anyway as we bothered the guy by looking at the knives we made our way through the Benchmade selection, Spartan, ZT, CRKT and finally the cold steel. We picked up a recon one and from everything I have been reading I was expecting a good knife. It was hard and gritty to open, didn't lock up correctly, difficult to unlock. We both looked at each other and said at the same time... "junk". The knife was new, pristine but just didn't function like one. Two things happened that day. I probably will never buy a Cold Steel knife and will never buy from Extreme Outfitter. The sales guy missed out on a sale because he acted like we were bothering him by wanting to even look at and handle the knives. I went home and bought from a online retailer at 37$ less.... for the same knife.
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As I said I work with three or four Cold Steels at ther SAR Show. One worked OK, Three did not. They were not equal. That is inconsistant QC.
I am not sure I will ever ever buy a EDC knife again, I have 4 or 5 on the dresser that take their turns in my pocket. All open with ease, close with ease, and take the little abuse I throw their way.
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Fair enough. I and many other have never had an issue. Like any company runts get through. Stupid for them if they were at a show. Though, as I think we all can admit the owner of the company is not the sharpest knife in the drawer.
As far as folders go, I have always been happy with Cold Steel Quality and Fit and Finish. Any company can make a lemon now and then. Even Spyderco, Benchmade, Chris Reeves and other companies make a lemon every great once in a while. One knife video does not make a poor quality producing company. It only reflects one person's one time experience.