First off, I don’t hate them and always wonder if anyone is going to come up with another reason to dislike them other than the Spidey Hole. I had one someone gifted me 25 years ago. I never bonded with it but keep on looking to see if one will. They had a fixed blade Waterway Salt model a while ago I liked but it’s out of production now. I generally find the handles to be too thin for my hands. Another bit that’s keeping me away is I can’t flip open a knife blade easily with a stud or a hole since having a stroke ten years ago. Flippers are my choice of blade ever since.