Why do you like tip up carry?

I carry a fixed about 90 percent of the time. But when I do drink beer.... uhhh.... carry a folder, I like tip down.

And I don't feel the need to justify my preference.
 
I'm confused by the statements between Zombie and others.

I agree that a knife CAN be a weapon, but like state law defines, it's all about intent. Hell a pen can be a weapon if intended to. Some loose paracord can be used as a garrote. You could probably manage to bludgeon someone to death with a heavy book if pressed.

But I don't think all knives' inherent purpose is as a weapon. Some of them, I think are more obviously designed to be weapons. However there's no way my dinky little Pazoda was created to be a weapon. Or a Dragonfly, or a Techno, etc. I would laugh if someone pulled a traditional slip joint on me (ok, some hyperbole there).
 
I carry knives tip up because the knives themselves designed to be carried this way. The butt of the knives allow me to put my hand in my pocket comfortably. And the blade against the seam.
 
Tip down can cause a knife with a flipper to open as you take the blade out of your pocket and stab your hand. Tip up is safe and gives your finger instant access to flipper as you take the knife out of your pocket. Tip down also protects the pivot area from the elements
 
Can a knife be a weapon? Absolutely. Have I ever carried a knife as a weapon? Absolutely not.

I have a permit and exercise my right to bear arms and I indeed carry a handgun most of the time. And I also carry a knife most of the time. And I have also been in martial arts since age 11 ... and I have taught self defense classes through the years ... and I was a certified firearms instructor and taught CCW courses at times.

And yes SOME people do carry knives as weapons.

Now that all thats said ... a baseball bat or a rock or a tree branch or damned near anything you can think of CAN be used as a weapon.

But to say pretty much everyone on here is a liar by not saying they carry a knife as a weapon is childish and as far away from the truth as you can get. Most people on here are here and carry a knife because they enjoy knives and know knives are incredibly useful ... wait for it ... TOOLS.

Now I'll make one last point ... if you carry yours for a weapon (for self defense purposes type weapon) ... and you are within your local laws to do so ... and that is your choice ... then I respect your right to do so ... no matter what my person thoughts about it are.

Just please don't try to tell me or others why they carry a knife ... I think each and everyone here can speak for themselves ... and don't look at everything that has the ability to cause harm as a weapon.

Thanks.
 
Somehow it is perceived that I am calling people "liars".
NOTHING can be further from the truth.
I respect everyones opinion, and life experiences. Everyones!

I simply stated MY bottom line opinion , and MY answer to the threads question.

Respectfully, I can not say that anyone is lying in their opinions but I CAN say that many do not like to admit that their primary reason for carrying a knife is because it is/can be a weapon.

Like I have said in other threads I use my knives as hammers, wire cutters, screwdrivers, chisels, ect...
I use my knives as tools BUT I respect the fact that they ARE weapons as well.

Example... Pull up next to any cop car, pull a Bowie knife or a Microtech OTF out, and start scraping your kids gum off the car window or pick that sesame seed from your teeth.
I think the cop see's that as a weapon more than a tool even tho you are Clearly using it AS a tool. (like a tool? as a tool?) There's a tool in there somewhere (careful open door)

No offense meant. It's just the way I see this subject.
 
Zombie411 said:
Just stating what is obvious.
I carry CCW, and knives. It has NOTHING to do with confrontation or "bravado".
It's called being prepared for all too common situations (sadly in this modern world)

Call a cardboard cutter a tool, and pretend it is NOT worthy of being called a weapon. Does not matter to me.
Call a .45 loaded with "wad cutters" a tool? Fine.
It's still a weapon.

Politically correct? Heck sir... I was born in Yonkers, and WE call a spade a spade.

Tell me how useful an OTF is as a tool. Flipper? tool right? Next time I need an OTF, I'll call Cabellas

I'm simply addressing the elephant in the room.
The thread was asking "Why Tip Up". I gave MY opinion of why.

Ask IF I have EVER used a knife as a weapon... I'll answer. Ask IF I think a knife CAN be a weapon? YES!

Too bad my thoughts, and direct answer are worthy of an ignore from you sir on a forum FULL of knife users.
I won't hold back my thoughts nor my honest answers.
Just who I am.

To answer my own question... NO! I have NEVER used a knife as a weapon, although I do carry some as such.
Cardboard, and clamshells may have a different take on that tho.

Sorry if I was too blunt.
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Zombie411 said:
It's a weapon thing. Tell the truth...

I have ALL my sheaths modified for tip UP. Folders, hip sheaths, and shoulder straps. All tip up.

It's faster to draw, and threaten.
Why is this topic so avoided on knife forums? Knives are weapons.

When you draw a pistol it is orientated in the defensive/offensive posture. Why should a knife be any different.

Folders drop out of an upside down sheath in a defensive posture (if you prefer)
Fixed blades fall out faster.

Tip up is purely for defense/offense. Tell the TRUTH!
Otherwise carry a Bali-song, and play around.
Moments matter!

I know... BANNED!
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Zombie411 said:
It's a weapon thing. Tell the truth...

I have ALL my sheaths modified for tip UP. Folders, hip sheaths, and shoulder straps. All tip up.

It's faster to draw, and threaten.
Why is this topic so avoided on knife forums? Knives are weapons.

When you draw a pistol it is orientated in the defensive/offensive posture. Why should a knife be any different.

Folders drop out of an upside down sheath in a defensive posture (if you prefer)
Fixed blades fall out faster.

Tip up is purely for defense/offense. Tell the TRUTH!
Otherwise carry a Bali-song, and play around.
Moments matter!

I know... BANNED!
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Zombie411 said:
Somehow it is perceived that I am calling people "liars".
NOTHING can be further from the truth.
I respect everyones opinion, and life experiences. Everyones!

I simply stated MY bottom line opinion , and MY answer to the threads question.

Respectfully, I can not say that anyone is lying in their opinions but I CAN say that many do not like to admit that their primary reason for carrying a knife is because it is/can be a weapon.

Like I have said in other threads I use my knives as hammers, wire cutters, screwdrivers, chisels, ect...
I use my knives as tools BUT I respect the fact that they ARE weapons as well.

Example... Pull up next to any cop car, pull a Bowie knife or a Microtech OTF out, and start scraping your kids gum off the car window or pick that sesame seed from your teeth.
I think the cop see's that as a weapon more than a tool even tho you are Clearly using it AS a tool. (like a tool? as a tool?) There's a tool in there somewhere (careful open door)

No offense meant. It's just the way I see this subject.
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Gee, I wonder how yelling at forum member to tell the truth and insisting there's only a single reason to carry tip up when folks have stated multiple other reasons could be perceived as calling them liars. :rolleyes:
 
Zombie411 said:
Somehow it is perceived that I am calling people "liars".
NOTHING can be further from the truth.
I respect everyones opinion, and life experiences. Everyones!

I simply stated MY bottom line opinion , and MY answer to the threads question.

Respectfully, I can not say that anyone is lying in their opinions but I CAN say that many do not like to admit that their primary reason for carrying a knife is because it is/can be a weapon.

Like I have said in other threads I use my knives as hammers, wire cutters, screwdrivers, chisels, ect...
I use my knives as tools BUT I respect the fact that they ARE weapons as well.

Example... Pull up next to any cop car, pull a Bowie knife or a Microtech OTF out, and start scraping your kids gum off the car window or pick that sesame seed from your teeth.
I think the cop see's that as a weapon more than a tool even tho you are Clearly using it AS a tool. (like a tool? as a tool?) There's a tool in there somewhere (careful open door)

No offense meant. It's just the way I see this subject.
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Well, I respectfully disagreed with you and will state again that I believe many or even most people here do not carry a knife primarily as a weapon and they are not in any form of denial about it.

I was in a car accident a few years ago and after it was all sorted out, the police officer told me I could go because my truck was still drive- able. Then I saw a piece of the plastic shrouding was pressed firmly against the passenger side wheel. I took out my knife, a one hand opening black handled Cold Steel Voyager and proceeded to cut that shrouding away from the wheel. He saw me do it and didn't say a word about it.
 
Zombie411 said:
Example... Pull up next to any cop car, pull a Bowie knife or a Microtech OTF out, and start scraping your kids gum off the car window or pick that sesame seed from your teeth.
I think the cop see's that as a weapon more than a tool even tho you are Clearly using it AS a tool. (like a tool? as a tool?) There's a tool in there somewhere (careful open door)
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Have you ever heard of using the correct tool for the job? Scraping gum off a window ... maybe a razor blade? It would be pretty ludicrous to try to scrap gum off a window with a bowie knife ... reguardless if you were sitting beside a police officer or at home in private.

And again why would you want or even try to use an automatic knife to scrap gum or use as a toothpick ???

And I wouldn't pull my gun out to pound in a nail helping out at the elementary schools fun days to hold a banner up either.

And as Insipid Moniker quoted your posts ... might be the reason someone may think you're calling people liars ... just pointing it out after they beat me to it.
 
If you are using memes to replace intelligent discourse, I have a suggestion; Don't
Discuss the topic or don't-

Stay on topic- Discuss the knives and not each other...We all have our opinions and are welcome to express them, but not at the expense of intelligent discourse or trolling for that matter.
 
Alright... some good stuff there fellas.
I don't disagree with anyone here on any point(s) made.
I just have my way of looking at it.

No offense was ever meant or willingly implied. To me it is what it is. An opinion.
 
A number of reasons for me...

-blade to pocket seam
-easier to position for use
-clip in more comfortable position on handle
-if it's a flipper then tab is deep in pocket out of way if reaching for keys
-on my PM2, as a lefty, gives me something more to grip using right hand configured compression lock
-just looks better imo
 
danbot said:
I don't really have a preference for tip up or tip down carry. I tend to carry one knife for a long time, so I just get used to how it carries.
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I do have a strong preference, but eventually I couldn't bear eliminating a lot of good knife designs from consideration so I own and regularly carry knives both ways. So I get used to switching back and forth.

I should have said before- I've been using pocket clips ever since I discovered them in about mid-1990s. In my experience knives of 3" or less are equally fast either way. Since I wear relatively tight jeans, significantly longer knives work much better for me tip down. If I wore looser clothes, larger pockets that my hands could get into easily, carried other than right front pocket, it would be different.
 
I just checked out all my pocket clip knives and I have twice as many that are tip up carry than tip down. After seeing this thread, the next time I carry a tip down folder it will be in the rear right pocket!
 
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