Recommendation? Why I carry Cold Steel

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So, Recently Ive seen Cold Steel knives get a lot of flak recently on other forums on this site about how "cold steel should never be considered the best" or "cold steel are unnessesarily overbuilt, bulky, awful folders that need 2 hands to open or close". Well let me share with you a small story that I feel deserves to be told due to recent events that happened to me. Its a small story but I tend to ramble, so read at your own discretion.

I started out about 5 years ago with my knife *********. I started out with my first two knives I have ever bought, a Spyderco tenacious, and resilience. Fairly modest knives, and good starters into this hobby, for both under $100. They were light, which was something I have never liked about them, and the tenacious broke 4 years ago. I know now that I abused the ever living crap about them, being 20 years old. My family owns a landscaping company, so I tried to incorporate the knives to do everything from cutting branches, to cutting 4 foot wide rolls of SOD (rolls of grass with dirt), and they did the job fairly well, except the tenacious which understandibly broke while attempting to cut a 3" wide tree.

Anyways, my grandfather, who was I want to say 70ish, came out with us to work, mostly just to supervise, and after i saw how useful of a tool a knife was, I ended up buying him a knife. I got him a Cold Steel AK 47 in AUS8, not as big as the resilience, but beefy in its own ways. He loved it. He did everything with it from cutting irrigation pvc pipes of multiple sizes, branches when no tools were available/too far, and hitting pavers with the pommel it had to get them unstuck from each other. The AK 47 left me speechless, because it was doing everything from holding an edge to cutting things that shouldn't be cut by a folder WAY better than the Resilience. That continued for 2 years, then he got lung cancer, was only able to use it on cucumbers, steak and fruit, and then he eventually passed away half a year ago. Since those 2 years, I have owned 2 knives, the Cold Steel recon 1 plain edge clip point, and the Cold Steel Immortal. They were knives that met my criteria of heavy abuse and having a fixed blade would have made several customers nervous. Both of those have uh.......met an unfortunate end. They didn't break. They were just.........i don't wanna say lost.......more like......i don't have them anymore because of 2 different VERY stupid reasons, about a year apart, one after the other.

Now, about a week ago I got struck by an oncoming drunk driver while driving, and the force from that impact caused my grandfathers AK 47 to come loose from somewhere in my car. I don't know where he hid it during that last trip to the hospital, but damn was it well hidden because I clean my car religiously every Sunday. So after the whole paramedics, insurance, calling in to work, and police report was handled, I went home to inspect the knife, and I decided to take it apart and set it back to "working" condition because it now held great sentimental value.

It wouldn't open smoothly or easily, the edge was beyond dull, it would be nearly impossible to close without putting the lock back on the edge of a table and putting your weight on it, and closing it was down right dangerous because you had to put significant pressure on the back of the blade to force it close, putting your fingers and palms dangerously close to the blade. After prying open the knife with a screwdriver and lots of WD40, due to the G10 and pins, screws, and pivot being rusted in place, I finally got to see the damage. More specifically the rust. Other than that, much to my surprise because of the gross abuse the knife was treated to, everything was good enough to be put through more abuse. Even the lockbar which was suppose to sink in the more the locking system needed it to be was still pretty factory and not sunken in. So I sanded all of the pins, but the actual blade, lock bar, and pommel were rust free so I left them alone, sanded the bronze washer, and pivot, and it was good to go. Also something I must add, the G10 seems to have gotten less aggressive over time and worn down as compared to my Espada. Ended up carrying it for a week because I refused to carry the Resilience that I still have over the AK 47 while my Espada got here, which was a nightmare to have shipped. Ill include several pics that I took at the end.

My take away with my experience with Cold Steel: Thank you guys for making knives like this. I have been solidified as a strong fan of your knives and will continue buying more, although some ZT and Hinderer models have been catching my eye as of late. Moved to an "office" job after university, and no longer need a knife except for SD and cutting the occasional box with the plastic straps that hold reams of paper, so i currently EDC a Cold Steel Espada Large in G10. Love it. But I guess the main take away to have is, cold steel may make brutishly heavy knives that may not flip open the nicest, or have a ton of "luxury" features, but Ill be downright mad before I take a spyderco to work before I take a cold steel.

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Cold Steel knives are designed by users, for users, and are meant to be used, not just taking out for "show and tell".

What he said...I had ak-47 by CS, now occasionally packing CS Tanto, they are tanks. Last for ever, ppl love them, only ones who don't like them are the ones who never owned 1.
 
Thanks for the sharing.
All I can say is that CS knives really are serious work knives.
And for all it's intent and purpose,
A go to warrior's gear brand that is second only to Glock ;-)
 
Im one of the guys that prefers the old models in general. I am a bit of a snob about having Japan or USA stamped on my blade. to boot, i also found the older designs more aesthetically pleasing (old scimitar vs new talwar any day of the week, titanium ti lite over g10 any day, old voyager over new steel-lined voyager, etc)

But you guys are absolutely right about the overbuilt vault-like solidity of ALL cold steel knives, no contestation on my part whatsoever. in fact, i just received a taiwanese master tanto and tai pan both in the new vg-10 san mai. i am unbelievably pleased with them. and none of the old knives i like so much have the triad lock, which is one of the toughest, if not the toughest, out there

OP, you mention the knives may not open as smoothly or fluidly as ones from other manufacturers. i am sure that if you did some light and careful sanding and polishing while you have the knife taken apart like that, that it would be just as smooth as more expensive knives on the market
 
Been using Cold Steel knives for the past couple of decades or so. I like just as much as other knife brands and sometimes more. They are like the Timex of knives, they "take a lickin' and keep on tickin'."
 
I don't usually bother trying to change someone's opinion. But I'll throw this out there OP. You're takeaway closing statement is grossly misinformed at best.

FWIW, the 2 Spyderco's you have experience with are 2 models made in China. They are entry level models with budget steel types. So when you compare them to a blade with CTS-XHP steel, you should see significantly different results. Different steel, different blade geometry, different lock types, etc...apples and oranges.

Enjoy your knives. Just wanted you to be aware there are a WHOLE LOT of comparable choices out there that are up to a lifetime of reliable use and abuse.
 
No B.S. knives at a fair price!
Their folders are great. I have many and EDC the heck out of them.

Their fixed . . . well their SecureEx sheaths are nothing but BS.
I am so sick of having the sheath dull my freshly sharpened edges before I get to use them I have stopped carrying Cold Steel fixed blades because of this. So frustrating !

Line them with non abrasive material or GO HOME.
 
I don't usually bother trying to change someone's opinion. But I'll throw this out there OP. You're takeaway closing statement is grossly misinformed at best.

FWIW, the 2 Spyderco's you have experience with are 2 models made in China. They are entry level models with budget steel types. So when you compare them to a blade with CTS-XHP steel, you should see significantly different results. Different steel, different blade geometry, different lock types, etc...apples and oranges.

Enjoy your knives. Just wanted you to be aware there are a WHOLE LOT of comparable choices out there that are up to a lifetime of reliable use and abuse.

I am fully aware they were cheap, affordable, low quality material made knives. And I didnt do a good job of explaining comparing the steels. The AK47 that I was comparing to the Tenacious and Resilience was AUS 8, which if im not wrong, should have been comparable to that steel. My run with XHP has been nothing but pleasant, but then again its my first "super steel". I have no doubt Spyderco makes high quality knives that can take abuse. However, for what I used to use knives for, a Spyderco that did the exact same as the AK47 did would have cost a lot more, which would have fallen out of my price range at the time (I mean, come on I was 17) and honestly because the tenacious failed on me it made me develop a kind of mistrust with Spydercos. I know this is personal bias, and completely unwarrented, and had the AK47 failed in the same manner which it very well could have, I would have a different outlook on Cold Steel, but it did not.

Nowadays, I just need a knife mainly for SD as there has been problems with the homeless in my city, either robbing or just beating people up, and I strongly believe that the scarier the knife looks the higher of a chance that the person will be deterred to enter a conflict. Cold steel happens to make VERY intimidating designs, and as I work with a lot of veterans and people that conceal carry, I do not have to worry about drawing attention to myself. I will say though, there was a point in time when I saw the Spyderco Matriarch and Civilian and was thinking of getting one, but the lack of wave ultimately pulled me towards the espada I got 3 weeks ago
 
That is actually hilarious that it exists because of how similar it is to the matriarch or civilian, and as far as I knew, there was only the Vaquero voyager with an S shaped blade that they sold. Man, I really gotta research deeper. Still no regrets on buying the Espada. Will eventually pick that one up. Thank you
 
That is actually hilarious that it exists because of how similar it is to the matriarch or civilian, and as far as I knew, there was only the Vaquero voyager with an S shaped blade that they sold. Man, I really gotta research deeper. Still no regrets on buying the Espada. Will eventually pick that one up. Thank you

Can't get much scarier than a XL Espada(aluminum bolster especially)deployed(at least judging by the looks I get). I love the two position handholds, using the outside one you can use it as a small machete.
 
That is actually hilarious that it exists because of how similar it is to the matriarch or civilian, and as far as I knew, there was only the Vaquero voyager with an S shaped blade that they sold. Man, I really gotta research deeper. Still no regrets on buying the Espada. Will eventually pick that one up. Thank you
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I carry a fixed blade whenever possible. But when I can’t, and need a hard use folder - it’s usually a CS AK-47. Demko Tri-ad locks have earned my trust.
 
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