Why is the Case Trapperlock not considered a traditional?

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Nic S.

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I was just curious why this isn't "traditional"? Its based off of the trapper pattern. It looks traditional, its constructed the same way. Now granted it does have one handed opening, but so does the RUSSLock. It locks, but so do do lock-backs and there are other liner locks on the market. Where is the love? When I think of modern I think of knives like the sebenza, mini-grip, delica, not Trapperlock. I mean look at it next to a peanut. It just says traditional styling to me. I was just getting a feeler for what you guys/gals think.






 
Mine does not have a pocket clip. So is the RUSSLock a no no because its one hand opening?
 
But the pattern of the knife is? So if the justification is the thumb stud, I could take the pocket clip off of the Spyderco Pingo and then it becomes a traditional? To me its the same thinking.
 
Nic S. said:
Mine does not have a pocket clip. So is the RUSSLock a no no because its one hand opening?
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It has a clip and/or thumb stud. One handed openers are good like the post civil war one handers.... I have no answer on the Russlock, other than they are accepted.
 
The lines are blurring as time goes on. Maybe not in our lifetimes....though. there will always be those who hold a true line though and thats not a bad thing.
 
Question aside how is the quality control of the trapperlock these days, I've seen tons of reports of it being not so great in terms of QC and other issues.
 
cchu518 said:
Question aside how is the quality control of the trapperlock these days, I've seen tons of reports of it being not so great in terms of QC and other issues.
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Case's trapperlock, too? My Rough Rider's trapperlock was stupidly designed to make it pretty much unusable. A real black spot on the Rough Rider line. The vendor, upon finding out, very graciously sent a replacement no questions asked. Unfortunately that one, too was a design failure in a slightly different way.

As far as not being traditional, I think they should be accepted in the traditional forum, being enough traditional design. Bolsters, liners, scales, pinned construction, all good enough for me. But the mods dug in their heels enough in disagreement, so that was the end of it.
 
cchu518 said:
Question aside how is the quality control of the trapperlock these days, I've seen tons of reports of it being not so great in terms of QC and other issues.
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The QC is on mine is ok, there was some marks on the bolsters and a rough spot on the spine of the blade. But here is the kicker, I bought it off of the big auction site as new BUT it could have been used? but other than that, the lock up is good and no other finish problems.
 
jbmonkey said:
The lines are blurring as time goes on. Maybe not in our lifetimes....though. there will always be those who hold a true line though and thats not a bad thing.
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My question is the line. I'm not trying to be a smart a** or anything but I was just curious because whenever someone posts a pic of this knife or talks about the traditional people get all butt hurt. I am trying to get into traditional knives a little more so I was just curious being a newbie to this style. As an outsider/new guy it just didn't make since to me. Like a guy putting a lift on a truck and then everyone saying its not longer a truck its a jeep, even though it appears to be a truck and looks nothing like a jeep. Just curious is all.
 
generally, it's combination of pattern, material and mechanics. A thumbstud is out, but just removing the thumbstud from a modern material/pattern knife (e.g. pingo) doesn't make it traditional. What is traditional is not one factor alone, though too much of one factor can eliminate something.
 
but just removing the thumbstud from a modern material/pattern knife (e.g. pingo) doesn't make it traditional.
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That was the point I was trying to make with my pingo comment, I.E. adding a thumb stud to a trapper doesn't change the knife at its core that much, but that's just my opinion.
 
Belongs in Feedback; obviously a jab at forum administration.

It's unwise to question a free service...trust me.
 
To keep the traditional forum on point lines had to be drawn somewhere. The rule is no thumb studs or clips. The Russlock has neither.
 
Nic S. said:
But the pattern of the knife is? So if the justification is the thumb stud, I could take the pocket clip off of the Spyderco Pingo and then it becomes a traditional? To me its the same thinking.
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It makes no difference, in traditional it's about the entire knife. Not the pattern, not the method of opening, not the materials. Nope the Pingo is not traditional, it has nontraditional handle materials. Sorry, but that thinking is incorrect for the purposes of the forum as it is and has been run for years now.
 
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Nic S. said:
That was the point I was trying to make with my pingo comment, I.E. adding a thumb stud to a trapper doesn't change the knife at its core that much, but that's just my opinion.
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I can dig it. While I stand by my statement that removing a thumbstud does not make something traditional, adding a thumbstud does make it NOT traditional, in my opinion.
 
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